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You know what?

Fuck it.

I mean, I bust my ass here, spend 2-3 hours a day on Wikipedia, and for what? Oh, that's right. Nothing.

Fuck all my 2000 edits, fuck the program I started, fuck the article I created which made it on DYK, fuck the system inferface page which I contributed to.

Just because someone in power has a bug up his ass, I get randomly chosen as Today's Featured Scapegoat. And indefinitely banned. And trolled by the blocking administrator. And spat on by ArbCom.

I don't know what it is about this place that makes me want to stay. I really don't. This entire shitball happened once before. I came back.

So I don't know if I'm leaving now. I suppose I am, but I can't really. Inside, I'll still be a Wikipedian screaming to come back and edit more. Even if I can find something else to fill my time, I'll wind up editing anonymously. Fixing grammar, leaving comments on talk pages. Little things.

It seems pretty unlikely I'll ever be unblocked. And that makes me sad, because I have so much to give to the community. I've given so much to Wikipedia, and it's given so much to me.

I guess that's really part of the problem, too. For one, anyone who offends is looked at as a common vandal. I don't think that it would have been that easy to block me if first, someone took the time to look at my contributions. See what I've done over there years I've been here. But instead, the only thing that comes into consideration is the bad things I've done. That's like blocking the United States because of the Iraq War. We all fuck up sometimes, and some of us fuck up bigger and more often than others. You just have to deal with the fuck-ups that happen occasionally.

And ArbCom is a joke. It's more of a useless heap that's shoved in the corner so people can say, "take it to ArbCom if you have a problem" and act like there's a solution. But there isn't. It's near-impossible to file a request. And you have to do thousands of other useless processes before you can even hope to get it to ArbCom. On the slight chance that you do get your case filed, it will most likely be refused because it was "nominated out of process" or simply because the arbitrators don't give a damn.

I'm a student in eighth grade. I'm not the most mature person in the world; there's no doubt about that. Most eighth graders aren't. But I do have some things to contribute. And I'm not perfect; nobody is, especially not me. You can't expect me to act like a saint all the time. I get angry sometimes. Trolling and ignoring doesn't help.

So, in summary...

This user is asking that their block be reviewed:

Flameviper (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I know that this probably won't get me a chance in hell at being unblocked, but what the hell. I have to let my anger out.

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+You know what?
-{{User talk:Flameviper/header}}
-{{User:Flameviper/bigred|This page is an [[ad hoc]] [[WP:RFAR|arbitration request]]. Since Flameviper is blocked, this is the only avenue of conversation for him.}}
+Fuck it.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=111645415&oldid=111645175 (original conversation, removed due to malformed nom)
+I mean, I bust my ass here, spend 2-3 hours a day on Wikipedia, and for what? Oh, that's right. Nothing.
-=== Flameviper ===
-: '''Initiated by ''' ~ '''<font color="CC0000">[[User:Flameviper|Flame]]</font><font color="009900">[[User talk:Flameviper|vip]]</font><font color="00CC00">[[User:Flameviper/edits|e]]</font><font color="009900">[[User talk:Flameviper|r]]</font>''' '''at''' 21:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
-==== Involved parties ====
-*{{userlinks|Flameviper}}
-*{{admin|Yanksox}}
-; Other steps in [[Wikipedia:dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] are, as of now, unavailable.
-::Yanksox has been manipulative in his representation of me. If you want proof that he's unfit, I'll remind you that he was later desysopped. This abuse of admin powers has been discussed extensively on the mailing list. If this account is blocked, please go [[User talk:Flameviper II|here]] or [[User talk:Flameviper III|here]]. Please, watch those pages and listen to me.
-==== Statement by Flameviper ====
-I apologize for doing this out of process, however I am a blocked user. Thus, I don't have the ability to file this elsewhere, nor do I have the time to take this up with the offender.
-To start of my evidence-fueled tour da force, here's a quote from Yanksox.
-:::<code>"I'm guessing this guy is a failed /b/tard. He's spitting out 4chan memes like a total newbie. I don't have an issue with this guy's being a 4channer, but his actual contribution to the encyclopedic aspect of this site has been minimal and barely marginal at best. Most of the time, he's just testing our patience. I'm really leaning towards a permaban. Yanksox 18:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)"</code>
+Fuck [[Special:Contributions/Flameviper|all my 2000 edits]], fuck [[WP:ADOPT|the program I started]], fuck [[5 themes of geography|the article I created which made it on DYK]], fuck [[MediaWiki:Anoneditwarning|the system inferface page which I contributed to]].
-And now, my retort. I had never even heard of Yanksox until several days earlier, so his insinuation that he had "been putting up with me for a long time" is unsubstantiated. For second, his claim of "barely marginal" is "barely legitimate" at best. [[Five themes of geography]] made DYK. My editcount is 3000+ (that should give you ideas), see [[User:Flameviper/edits]] for more. For last, I have never been on 4chan, and that accusation is simply an ad hominem personal attack. "Like a newbie"? This kind of abuse, coming from a normal user, would warrant a block (or at least serious warning via WP:NPA). But from Yanksox, it's just another drop in the bucket.
-And now I will give you some actual URLs to substantiate myself.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Flameviper and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Flameviper&action=history
-This is the history of my talk page (as User:Flameviper). Various things happened here, the most important of which was probably the reversion of my announcement that I was taking a month-long Wikivacation. This did not "coincide" with the block, it was caused by the block. I will admit that I was unwilling to admit I had been banned for a month and as thus, I announced that I was leaving. Perhaps this was obstinate and pigheaded of me to do, but the net result (me not editing for 30 days) was the same, and it certainly did not warrant a revert and a protection. After approximately two reverts, the page was locked for one month.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Flameviper
-Rather self-explanatory. I had conceived an idea (Wikipedia:Informal checkuser) of a practice that could potentially be put to bad use.
-Instead of seeing it for what it was (a cautionary warning), several administrators decided that it was my claim of being targeted, which it wasn't. My IP address is 69.81.50.1, and another one is 216.11.222.21. I'm not hiding anything.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flameviper
-Self-explanatory. This is my contributions. Note that my edit summaries are usually somewhat immature. This doesn't help my case, but keep in mind that serious edits are usually marked in the same informal manner as joking ones.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/HUNGY_MAN
-A small-scale account that I created back in May 2006 for no particular reason (most likely to give to a friend, I can't remember). Not as a sockpuppet. I used it to make very small edits to my Flameviper userpage and got the Flameviper account indefinitely blocked by Yanksox (without a consensus at the ANI page).
-http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Flameviper&action=history
-Revert war between myself and several sysops, particularly Gwernol (the last few edits). Through HUNGY_MAN, my alternate account, I had blanked my userpage simply for the purpose of not having an embarassing "blocked" notice on my user page.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive74#User:Flameviper_needs_a_coach
-WP:AN thread where I have been grossly misrepresented, abused, and I'm not able to defend myself because I'm banned.
-Specifically, the e-mail representations of Flameviper. For one, Ryan's e-mail response was blackmailed from me as I was under the impression that the corrsepondence was private. Secondly, my claim in that e-mail was not that I craved the attention of people, it was actually that I craved positive attention. Of course, I didn't anticipate my words being twisted against me, since I believed this to be in confidence. And thirdly, Josh Gordon also misrepresented me. He claimed that I "threatened sockpuppetry and vandalism". I did no such thing; I merely stated that if I could not edit my talk page and e-mail produced no response, then I would be forced to use sckpuppetry to communicate. The "threat of vandalism" was a pure fabrication. However, these outrageous misinterpretations go uncorrected because, again, I cannot contact Wikipedia.
-So there, you have it. An archive of an abused snake.
-==== Statement by Yanksox ====
-My block of Flameviper was endorsed by the community. He was blocked for trolling and continues to send harassing e-mails that seem to cross into [[WP:LEGAL]]. Furthermore, this hardly seems for Arbcom because this case is being brought to the light due to another case with more gravity. The more proper place for a request like this is [[WP:RfC]] or MedCab. [[User talk:Yanksox|<font color="black">Yank</font><font color="red">sox</font>]] 16:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
-==== Clerk notes ====
+Just because someone in power has a bug up his ass, I get randomly chosen as [[WP:FA|Today's Featured Scapegoat]]. And indefinitely banned. And [[Internet troll|'''trolled''']] by the blocking administrator. And spat on by ArbCom.
-==== Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter (0/0/0/0) ====
+I don't know what it is about this place that makes me want to stay. I really don't. This entire shitball happened once before. I came back.
+So I don't know if I'm leaving now. I suppose I am, but I can't really. Inside, I'll still be a Wikipedian screaming to come back and edit more. Even if I can find something else to fill my time, I'll wind up editing anonymously. Fixing grammar, leaving comments on talk pages. Little things.
+It seems pretty unlikely I'll ever be unblocked. And that makes me sad, because I have so much to give to the community. I've given so much to Wikipedia, and it's given so much to me.
+I guess that's really part of the problem, too. For one, anyone who offends is looked at as a common vandal. I don't think that it would have been that easy to block me if first, someone took the time to look at my contributions. See what I've done over there years I've been here. But instead, the only thing that comes into consideration is the bad things I've done. That's like blocking the [[United States]] because of the [[Iraq War]]. We all fuck up sometimes, and some of us fuck up bigger and more often than others. You just have to deal with the fuck-ups that happen occasionally.
+And ArbCom is a joke. It's more of a useless heap that's shoved in the corner so people can say, "take it to ArbCom if you have a problem" and act like there's a solution. But there isn't. It's near-impossible to file a request. And you have to do thousands of other useless processes before you can even hope to get it to ArbCom. On the slight chance that you ''do'' get your case filed, it will most likely be refused because it was "nominated out of process" or simply because the arbitrators don't give a damn.
+I'm a student in eighth grade. I'm not the most mature person in the world; there's no doubt about that. Most eighth graders aren't. But I do have some things to contribute. And I'm not perfect; nobody is, especially not me. You can't expect me to act like a saint all the time. I get angry sometimes. Trolling and ignoring doesn't help.
+So, in summary...
+{{unblock|I know that this probably won't get me a chance in hell at being unblocked, but what the hell. I have to let my anger out.}}