Talk:Model United Nations

Hi, its actually MUNGA is the UK. MUN-general assembly. its great fun being given such an environment to perform in

Another Suggestion

Could somebody find a list of NGOs these are vitally important to MUN resolutions, and seem to be unable to find a website that provides a list of them, if you could link to it at the bottom, or start up an article of MUN NGOs that are worth noting that would be greatly appreciated. Cheetoian

Suggestion

I'm an avid debator from Syosset, and I've noticed that while Chicago Lab, Dalton, and Highland Park are mentioned in the article, the Oceanside High School is not included. Perhaps someone should consider adding their respected MUN program to the list.

All the best, Sean

Well if you do that you might as well add all of the MUN programs around the country... or even the globe! ((Ronald Reagan High School included :D))

Article needs work

I've added a POV Check to the article. I feel the article needs a good deal of work to get it back to NPOV. I did a little work on the "headers" (or lack thereof) but it still needs work. I have no clue how to approach the subject, particularly the double entry thing (???) so I'm hoping someone else will be able to. Reene (リニ) 12:51, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)

I've removed a couple of sentences from the reson for participation section that were too general and very POVed. The rest still has a bit of an advert feeling to it, but nothing serious IMO. I do not see anything in the #2 entry that has not been mentionned above. Should we just delete it? Alfy 04:51, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'd say remove the second entry, yes. Or remove whichever one is less informative/more POV. After that is done I can do some tweaking to the paragraphs so they sound a little less rah-rah. Reene (リニ) 19:05, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)

OK, a bit of destructive editing here, I removed the second entry. I'll be away for a about a week, but I'll have another look at the article when I come back. It does not look THAT bad, tough. Alfy 01:27, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Good article, but I'm not sure for the reason to include different committees that have been done in various conferences; Considering some conferences do historical committees, and how difficult it would be to track the committees in different conferences, the section serves little purpose.

68.100.151.102 20:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)Can anyone tell me who founded the Model UN?68.100.151.102

POV Check

I removed the POV Check because I do not really see a POV problem. I did remove the link to the SouthMUN page that was taken down due to copyright issues.

I put back the POV tag because the entire last paragraph of the Participants section has major POV issues. "An inner circle of teams ... has come to dominate"??? Give me a break. Wl219 04:29, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

and my tiny little nipples went to france:P

Wikify tag removal

I removed the wikify tag. It looks wikified to me. --CDN99 02:13, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Redirected AFDed article

Westchester Model United Nations Conference had an AFD that agreed to redirect the article here. I couldn't find any material of worth to merge, but more knowledgeable editors are free to dig in the article's page history. Johnleemk | Talk 11:59, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Claims need verification

This article claims that the two largest Model United Nations conferences are The Hague Invitational Model United Nations (THIMUN) and the Harvard Model United Nations (HMUN), and claims they both host over 3,000 students. The HMUN website, www.harvardmun.org, claims only to host over 2,000 students, and to the best of my personal knowledge, the NAIMUN conference, www.modelun.org/naimun is larger than HMUN. My assertion obviously need validation, but at the least, I am certain that the current assertion is incorrect.

Several references are made to a "MUN International," which I cannot find referenced anywhere else on the web, and does not appear to exist as a legitimate organization. The publication referenced also appears not to exist.

• I think "MUN International" is really American Model United Nations International [1]. Mystache 04:11, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup

Looking at the article, it seems as though the content needs to be refocused. There is a lot of repetition in the material and it seems that references to specific conferences are bordering on vain. Mystache 04:09, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

MUN Wiki

Hey,

There's a Model UN-specific Wiki (http://www.munfo.com). Should this be incorporated into this article, and where?

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Needs More Work

Additional items that need correction or clarification: The NMUN (National MUN) in NY is a college conference and thus should not be directly compared to the high school conferences. The National High School MUN (NHSMUN) also in NY, is probably the largest of the US based conferences, with attendance at over 2,000. While sometimes recognition is given to delegates at MUNs for the quality of their work, there are no "winners;" such a concept is, in fact, recognized as detrimental to the quality and accuracy of the simulation by the better conferences. Moreover, no particular group of schools "dominates the MUN circuit." While, for example, the 30+ year history of the NHSMUN has seen various schools send high quality delegations for periods of several years, the very nature of the conferences shows a constant changing of the guard. All in all, this article needs work, fact checking, and a more balanced approach. -Danny Weiss, 26 June 2006.

• While I'd agree with you on the first part of your statement, the issue of awards is not true. With the exception of NAIMUN, the largest conferences, HMUN and ILMUNC both give individual awards, and all three give out delegation awards, with trophies and certificates of merit, as one would at an athletic event. While the benefits of this may be questioned, the facts show that it occurs regularly. Also domination does not need to occur over a set period, say 30 years. Looking at the past 5-10 years, the same small group of schools have taken the vast majority of delegation awards at the largest conferences. 24.199.119.21 04:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)Nick Hurwitz 3/6/07

Further suggestion

I did MUN for 10 years, so I definitely come into this discussion with my own biases. However, I do think the external links section is way too long. It would be better to start another wiki article called "list of MUN conferences," along with "list of MUN clubs/organizations," if we were to make an effort to mention everybody. Additionally, there's no mention of crisis/security simulations where the emphasis isn't so much on writing and large group speaking but rather small group collaborative problem solving under intense time pressure. To me, these were the most fun simulations I participated in, toward my later years. Also, there's no mention of MUN in popular culture, such as the "Das Bus" episode of the Simpsons or the Olsen twins' film "Winning London." Finally, I do think there is a potential POV issue with the heavy emphasis on Huntington Beach, Dalton, et al. Why mention just these schools when there are tens of thousands of students at hundreds of schools doing MUN across the country? Wl219 21:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

• I totally agree with everything you've said. I've moved conferences to the list... article and I've removed the POV youve noted but both resurface over time. Perhaps a total rewrite is in order? Mystache 23:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Redirect

Why does "Position Papers" redirect to Model UN? thats like redirecting "thesis" to Yale's Philosophy Department.

• Then RfD it. Mystache 15:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Or better yet, incorporate the idea of position papers into the article. --Spartacusprime 17:54, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Links

I have taken the liberty of removing most of the links to other sites. I feel that they had nothing to do with MUN itself and had more to do with preparation sites for conferences. As an MUNer myself, I know how hard it is to find good research sites, but Wikipedia is not the appropriate place to include them. Also many of them were links to sites that had to do with the 'real' UN (like the ones dealing with treaties and such), and should be placed on that website rather than this one. I know many of you out there disagree and will probably crucify me on this issue, but please understand where I am coming from. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to contact me on my talk page, or post here. Thank you, --Pahoran513 21:31, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

History

Has anyone ever published a decent history of MUNs of the kind that could validate some of these history claims? Bmorton3 17:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Cleaning Up

I've tidied up the article a bit, to make it more NPOV and verifiable. Unfortunately, the only source that I could find was in German: [2]. If anyone else can find sources in English then do update the page.

MUN doesn't just simulate the UN

I've reverted the first paragraph, as saying that MUN is a simulation of the UN is not accurate - as the article points out, MUN also simulates, for example, the European and African Unions at some conferences. If someone can come up with a wording to reflect this in the first paragraph, that would be great, but nothing straightforward comes to mind. Anthony.moore 16:00, 25 August 2006 (UTC)Anthony.moore

I firmly agree with your point. I have represented the European Union a total of two times now all within my high school's MUN team, which aims at not only regional conferences but outside of the state as well, so no one can tell me that it's "just my school" either.

MUN also simulates some special committees as well... Why isn't European Union in this wiki page at all? or the African Union, as user Anthony.moore has pointed out? neilthecellist 20:36 2 November 2006

IP Address 72.152.238.188

This person needs to be blocked. Who do I go to for that? Spartacusprime 02:26, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

What is this person's user name? Cheetoian 08:15, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

• He or she has no name, just an IP address from where they continually vandalise. Spartacusprime 20:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

See WP:AIV if he does it again. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 ^{(T | C | @)} 03:55, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Citations

This article is not very fully cited - I've put together a website with quite a lot of information about MUN from a variety of sources - you can find it at http://uk.geocities.com/uclmodelun/. In accordance with the NPOV policy, I'm posting the link here rather than changing the article myself. Anthony.moore 11:19, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I think you mean WP:OR. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 ^{(T | C | @)} 03:57, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Jokes and Pick Up Lines

I hope nobody minds, but I added this section. It is a very important part of any MUN conference.

No doubt funny, and no doubt prevalent, but I question the encylcopedic value. However, I'm going to voice my opinion and let someone else who can cite wikipolicy one way or another make a decision. --Columba livia 03:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Not relevant to the subject. I'm going to archive the list on my user page, but I don't think it has any real place here. Spartacusprime 19:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)