Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Iasson

Case Opened on 20 March 2005

Please do not edit this page directly unless you wish to become a participant in this request. (All participants are subject to Arbitration Committee decisions, and the ArbCom will consider each participant's role in the dispute.) Comments are very welcome on the Talk page, and will be read, in full. Evidence, no matter who can provide it, is very welcome at /Evidence. Evidence is more useful than comments.

Arbitrators will be working on a proposed decision at /Proposed decision.

Involved parties

• Iasson
• Faethon
• Acestorides
• Scott Burley
• Humblefool
• Thryduulf

Statement by Scott Burley / Humblefool

Please limit your statement to 500 words

From December to late January, User:Iasson repeatedly attempted to change Wikipedia policy, and deletion policy in particular, to his own liking, without subjecting it to consensus. Furthermore, he acted on these policies unilaterally, casting "peculiar votes" in VfD (a good example is [1]). He was asked to stop many times, but refused. He made one post in particular threatening to continue until banned, for which he was blocked for 24 hours. An RFC was filed on January 15th. Iasson "left" in late January, but has made occasional edits since then, mostly to his RFC and user page. He was active on meta for a while, until he received a 15-day ban for similar activities.

User:Faethon appeared around the same time Iasson left. Faethon has a similar editing style to Iasson, though Iasson has denied being Faethon. Faethon attempted to create a "public account" by posting his password on his user page. Predictably, the password was soon changed. Undaunted Faethon created User:Faethon2. This too was "robbed". Faethon continued down the number line (Faethon3, Faethon4, etc.), until about 45 accounts had been registered. Most of these were not registered by Faethon, but by other users attempting to "stop" him.

On February 25th, a public account was created at User:Acestorides, using nearly the same wording as User:Faethon. Rather than using numbers, this account series progresses by using the List of ancient Greeks. It appears to have advanced through at least Adrianus, or about 10 accounts.

All of these accounts have made virtually no significant edits to the main namespace.

This request for arbitration against User:Iasson was originally written by User:Scott Burley. Submitted by User:Humblefool with evidence page. humblefool® 01:13, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Statements by Iasson and Aeropus I of Macedon

Please limit your statement to 500 words

I just wanted to tell you that I am innocent. Thats all I have to say. Hope you ll believe me.

Hi Iasson! you were supposed to have left wikipedia, what are you doing here? Stop fooling around and get back to work. Anyway, IMHPO I think that you are not innocent at all, and you are trying to fool us with your peculiar voting methods. Time always belongs to rough consensus majority, and we are not willing to give any time slice to minorities like you. Aeropus I of Macedon 08:36, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

When I said I left, I meant stop editing pages and contributing to wikipedia, not reading. But I am in a trial now, and I am because of your Faethon nonsenses, so I have to defend myself a little bit. Could you please stop abusing the proxy address we are both using?. Someone of you received a 24 hours ban because of violation of the 3RR and I couldnt edit too! (although I think you should be punished for violation of the 6RR as long you are at least two persons behind those Faethon nonsenses..anyway). Please stop abusing the proxy. Thank you. Iasson 14:04, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

On what it concerns my case, I was wondering how an ArbCom case can start against public accounts, as long as there is not any policy that determines what to do with public accounts case. Are arbitrators allowed to create policies without asking rough consensus majority, then do their judgement relying on the policies they have just created? Aeropus I of Macedon 08:36, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Preliminary decisions

Arbitrators' opinions on hearing this matter (6/0/0/0)

• Accept to determine current policy on accounts of this nature. -- Grunt 🇪🇺 02:04, 2005 Mar 18 (UTC)

  Public accounts? Present convention appears to be to lock them, c.f. any account listed on BugMeNot (these are locked on sight; I've yet to hear a word against doing so) and what happened when CheeseDreams gave her password away (the account was promptly locked). The rest appears to be plain sockpuppet abuse. I'm not sure there's a need for us to endorse policy to be written on that score. I've just added something like this to Wikipedia:Blocking policy, describing current practice and the reasons for it as best I could - David Gerard 21:38, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

  It would still be a good idea to confirm that this is present practice, then, and get it written in Wikipedia:Arbitration policy/Precedents. -- Grunt 🇪🇺 22:52, 2005 Mar 18 (UTC)

  You got a point there - David Gerard 12:24, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Accept. Ambi 03:38, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Accept ➥the Epopt 11:11, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Accept to ratify current consensus behaviour toward public accounts. I'm not sure we can actually stop someone from setting them up, of course ... - David Gerard 12:24, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Accept --mav 02:52, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Accept. Neutrality^talk 03:16, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)

Temporary injunction

1) Due to a demonstrated tendency toward disruptive editing habits on voting-related pages, Iasson is prohibited from editing any deletion-related page for the duration of the case. Should he do so, he may be blocked for up to a week by an administrator. Determining what is "deletion-related" is left to the discretion of the blocking administrator.

Passed 7 to x at 21:13, 2005 Mar 21 (UTC)

Final decision (none yet)

All numbering based on /Proposed decision (vote counts and comments are there as well)

Remedies

Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.