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Alcazar Library arson attack

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False information mixed with lack of notability Dynamo128 (talk) 08:24, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

None of the information on the article appears to be incorrect. 76.232.20.197 (talk) 08:40, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

What exactly in the article is false? Jim 2 Michael (talk) 11:01, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Reposting from the article talk page:

A lot of, shall we put it politely, mendacious media is reporting that the library was burnt down, when in reality all that happened was some external fire damage to the building and windows being smashed: not a single document was destroyed or damaged because the protesters failed to enter the building. Look no further than the third source (https://interviewtimes.net/riots-in-france-continue-for-the-third-day-as-rioters-burn-down-the-largest-library-in-marseilles/) claiming it has "burnt down" when that never even happened. In light of this, I fail to see why this article is necessary considering it was such a minor event, to me all it does is help promote a conspiracy theory. I think this article should be removed, and possibly replaced with an article on the library itself.

The library is set to re-open next week, there was some damage to the exterior of the building and some glasses got smashed, but considering we are dealing with riots, I fail to see how such an event of minuscule magnitude has any relevance for Wikipedia? The very first line said that "the building was heavily damaged by a large fire", which did not happen, this wasn't the Notre Dame fire. --Dynamo128 (talk) 11:48, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

• Strong Delete. The framing of this article is textbook blatant WP:POV bordering on deliberate hoaxing. Examples:

• At the time of its arson, the library was one of the biggest in France, containing nearly a million documents. This is clearly meant to imply to the casual reader that a million documents were burned.
• The window of the library was smashed. But, the protesters failed to completely destroy the library. Not only is this crucial info buried near the end, the wording in failed to completely destroy is self-evidently unacceptable for an encyclopedia.
• As pointed out above, the sources are all unreliable and even misleading. The only reliable source, the BBC, doesn't mention the library at all.

In short, damage to some windows and exteriors of a building is not even remotely notable, and can be covered in a sentence in the main Nahel Merzouk protests article. 〜 Festucalex • talk 13:00, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and France. Shellwood (talk) 11:05, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
• Delete As explained above, this violates WP:POV and potentially WP:SOAPBOX --TheInsatiableOne (talk) 13:29, 3 July 2023 (UTC)