Talk:Fair and balanced

"most likely due to the the derision heaped upon it by those (mostly of a liberal persuasion) who claim FOX is heavily conservatively biased.

I think that derision is not the correct word to use here if we want true NPOV. criticised, or something else would be better

"a slogan which has come in for equal derision."

ditto - I took this one out to propose new language

"(and quite literally, according to Franken in a report in The Independent) laughed out of court by Judge Denny Chin, who stated that he was quite close to revoking FOX's trademark on the slogan, based on the supposedly fair and balanced channel seemingly being nothing of the sort."

We need some facts to support this laughed out loud claim (other than Franken - there were independent observers I assume in a hearing with this level of media scrutiny) as well as the "came close to revoking". Which I doubt - although he may have wanted to, a judge can not sui sponte revoke a trademark. Until there is some facts on this it probably should stay out. (all three comments by Trödel|talk 03:05, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC))

I agree. That sounds like it would be a very serious case of misconduct for a judge so per BLP and general fairness, we need a reliable source to support such an accusation. Personally, I highly doubt it since if it were the case, it seems rather likely Fox News would have made a hell of a stink about it 203.109.240.93 12:59, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

from Vfd

On 4 Mar 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Fair and balanced for a record of the discussion. —Korath (Talk) 16:02, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

Weasel Words

Use of the word "Critics say..." is pretty ambigious. I have to admit I have a personal bias against Fox News but still believe this needs to be clarifed Maybe list the critics that point it out (Jon Stewart, Chris Mathews, etc)... --ZacBowling 01:54, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

"Liberal bias" is not NPOV

"implying a liberal bias in some competing news sources." is not NPOV ... the slogan "Fair and Balanced" implies the possibility of bias, but does not define it futher (ie. whether it is conservative or liberal or any other kind)

Please sign your comment. Besides, the statement quoted above was attributed to the perspective of FOX News, not the author. I think it would be difficult to expect NPOV from FOX News... LOL. The real problem is "It asserts objectivity of the network", since the slogan "Fair and Balanced" doesn't assert objectivity, but more fairness and balance, both of which FOX News lacks except to the most neo-con fanboy. --Fandyllic 6:25 AM PDT 12 Aug 2006

Well usually when people come up with slogans like that it's to be expected that their neither. It's like when a country is called the people's democractic republic you'd know it has little to do with the people or democracy. 203.109.240.93 12:59, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Is it not NPOV to mention that many believe that most of the other mainstream media outlets are biased left? I certainly agree that FOX is slanted right, but it is equally true that the major networks and NPR are skewed left. Of course, regardless of my viewpiont, it is held by a great manner others and may be worth mentioning. Not mentioning it makes it appear that Fox is the only outlet that is skewed (as if one can only be skewed right, any other is correct) leaving a non-NPOV as a result.---66.73.52.194 20:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Minor correction

I edited a misspelling, it should be listed in the page history. Aufheben 19:36, 18 January 2007 (UTC)