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The IPs geolocate to far away from where public info states that Malcolm Collins is living. Their writing styles (between Merrymilkman1 and others) are distinct, with non-Merrymilkman1 accounts unintentionally making grammar/spelling mistakes: the exact same as the Reddit user Beach-Yoga. We see common use of "..." at the end of sentences. Compare this to Malcolm's known Reddit account, [https://www.reddit.com/user/SirTechnocracy/]. We see none of the charateristic writing quirks of the non-Merrymilkman1 accounts/Beach-Yoga [https://www.reddit.com/user/Beach-Yoga/]. Indeed, the Beach-Yoga's Reddit posts line up with the IP's geolocation. Why would Malcolm create a separate Reddit account going back years posting about a state he doesn't live in, while continuously maintaining a distinct writing style? Beach-Yoga and Malcom's Reddit have different time-of-day patterns [https://redditmetis.com/user/SirTechnocracy][https://redditmetis.com/user/Beach-Yoga]. The email probably isn't actually be Malcolm's email despite the name. Very weird overall. <span style="color:darkblue;"><b>[[User:Chamaemelum|<span style="color:green;">Chamaemelum</span>]]</b></span> (<span style="color:red;"><i>[[User talk:Chamaemelum|<span style="color:purple;">talk</span>]]</i></span>) 08:14, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
The IPs geolocate to far away from where public info states that Malcolm Collins is living. Their writing styles (between Merrymilkman1 and others) are distinct, with non-Merrymilkman1 accounts unintentionally making grammar/spelling mistakes: the exact same as the Reddit user Beach-Yoga. We see common use of "..." at the end of sentences. Compare this to Malcolm's known Reddit account, [https://www.reddit.com/user/SirTechnocracy/]. We see none of the charateristic writing quirks of the non-Merrymilkman1 accounts/Beach-Yoga [https://www.reddit.com/user/Beach-Yoga/]. Indeed, the Beach-Yoga's Reddit posts line up with the IP's geolocation. Why would Malcolm create a separate Reddit account going back years posting about a state he doesn't live in, while continuously maintaining a distinct writing style? Beach-Yoga and Malcom's Reddit have different time-of-day patterns [https://redditmetis.com/user/SirTechnocracy][https://redditmetis.com/user/Beach-Yoga]. The email probably isn't actually be Malcolm's email despite the name. Very weird overall. <span style="color:darkblue;"><b>[[User:Chamaemelum|<span style="color:green;">Chamaemelum</span>]]</b></span> (<span style="color:red;"><i>[[User talk:Chamaemelum|<span style="color:purple;">talk</span>]]</i></span>) 08:14, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
::The post by blocked sock 'Count Graduon' on the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Malcolm_Collins_(author)|Collins AfD]] does bear similarity with 'Beach-Yoga' on Reddit - both choosing to make the strange point that the nominator of the AfD (Li'l ole me) posted on Muslim subjects - and vociferously defending the notability of Collins. The IP 2607:FB91:888C:A62:AC39:D1F7:4DF2:DE59 can't spell 'hippocritical', BTW... Both Count Graduon and Kauiltan had made contributions to the Collins article, including moves to mainspace from draft and content creation. Best [[User:Alexandermcnabb|Alexandermcnabb]] ([[User talk:Alexandermcnabb|talk]]) 08:39, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
::The post by blocked sock 'Count Graduon' on the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Malcolm_Collins_(author)|Collins AfD]] does bear similarity with 'Beach-Yoga' on Reddit - both choosing to make the strange point that the nominator of the AfD (Li'l ole me) posted on Muslim subjects - and vociferously defending the notability of Collins. The IP 2607:FB91:888C:A62:AC39:D1F7:4DF2:DE59 can't spell 'hippocritical', BTW... Both Count Graduon and Kauiltan had made contributions to the Collins article, including moves to mainspace from draft and content creation. Best [[User:Alexandermcnabb|Alexandermcnabb]] ([[User talk:Alexandermcnabb|talk]]) 08:39, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
:I suspect you might be right, it might be a joe job. It's very weird behaviour though, why would someone harass a bunch of editors for voting delete on the behalf of the article subject? I think the only way we'll know one way or another whether the rest of the sock farm is related to merrymilkman or not is for a checkuser to take a look. [[Special:Contributions/192.76.8.82|192.76.8.82]] ([[User talk:192.76.8.82|talk]]) 11:26, 10 July 2023 (UTC)


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Merrymilkman1

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09 July 2023

– A user has requested CheckUser. An SPI clerk will shortly look at the case and endorse or decline the request.

Suspected sockpuppets

In this edit [1] MerrymilkMan1 discloses that they are Malcolm Collins, the subject of an article currently up for deletion.

In this reddit thread [2] (currently being discussed at AN) the reddit user Beach-Yoga posts several wikipedia UPE scam related emails sent to Malcolm Collins's email address, making it clear that the reddit account is the same person.

Here [3] The same reddit account complains that their draft Draft:Jobley Health was deleted as spam, that page was created by Mammach. In the comments of that thread they also seem to suggest that they also control the account Clinton1000.

Here [4] The same reddit account posts screenshots of multiple editors cleaning up harassment from IPv6 address 2607:FB91:888C:A62:AC39:D1F7:4DF2:DE59. In the title of the post they make it clear that they are the person doing the harassing.

This is clearly a case of good hand/bad hand sock puppetry. They're using one account to participate politely in the AFD and make out that they're the victim of an UPE scam, they're using other accounts to produce spam of their own, and they're logged out editing as an IPv6 to harass and bully people that have voted to delete their article.

Requesting checkuser to check for other accounts or to see if this is related to a known spam farm. 192.76.8.82 (talk) 21:45, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Another IP of this sock, from the appearance of this [[5]] diff, is 47.181.166.72. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:27, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The IPs geolocate to far away from where public info states that Malcolm Collins is living. Their writing styles (between Merrymilkman1 and others) are distinct, with non-Merrymilkman1 accounts unintentionally making grammar/spelling mistakes: the exact same as the Reddit user Beach-Yoga. We see common use of "..." at the end of sentences. Compare this to Malcolm's known Reddit account, [6]. We see none of the charateristic writing quirks of the non-Merrymilkman1 accounts/Beach-Yoga [7]. Indeed, the Beach-Yoga's Reddit posts line up with the IP's geolocation. Why would Malcolm create a separate Reddit account going back years posting about a state he doesn't live in, while continuously maintaining a distinct writing style? Beach-Yoga and Malcom's Reddit have different time-of-day patterns [8][9]. The email probably isn't actually be Malcolm's email despite the name. Very weird overall. Chamaemelum (talk) 08:14, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The post by blocked sock 'Count Graduon' on the [AfD] does bear similarity with 'Beach-Yoga' on Reddit - both choosing to make the strange point that the nominator of the AfD (Li'l ole me) posted on Muslim subjects - and vociferously defending the notability of Collins. The IP 2607:FB91:888C:A62:AC39:D1F7:4DF2:DE59 can't spell 'hippocritical', BTW... Both Count Graduon and Kauiltan had made contributions to the Collins article, including moves to mainspace from draft and content creation. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:39, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect you might be right, it might be a joe job. It's very weird behaviour though, why would someone harass a bunch of editors for voting delete on the behalf of the article subject? I think the only way we'll know one way or another whether the rest of the sock farm is related to merrymilkman or not is for a checkuser to take a look. 192.76.8.82 (talk) 11:26, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments