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2023 Marrakesh-Safi earthquake magnitude

Hi. After my first edit changing from 6.9 to 6.8, I noticed that three different reporting agencies published three different magnitude estimates: 6.8, 6.9 and 7.2. I propose that the lead and infobox give the range as 6.8-7.2. Xan747 ✈️ 🧑‍✈️ 15:44, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The agencies that gave 6.8 and 6.9 specified the magnitude subtype (Mww or Mw). Note these are two different magnitude types so they shouldn't be merged. I can't find any sources specifying the 7.0-7.2 magnitude subtypes. Either way, due to the subtypes, I oppose giving a range. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 15:56, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The 6.8 Mww attributed to the USGS is incorrect: that agency publishes in Mw. The 6.9 magnitude attributed to GCMT is also given in Mw. Like you, I cannot find a subtype specification for the 7.2 published by Morocco, but given that most RS which publish both the USGS and Morocco estimates without distinguishing, I think we're safe to assume they are the same subtype. Finally, the GCMT 6.9 Mw citation is the agency itself. I find it odd that a primary source should trump what the vast majority of RS are reporting; where both are reported, they lead with the USGS 6.8 then the Moroccan 7.2; otherwise they're reporting only the USGS 6.8. So if we're to pick one and only one number for the lead and infobox, it should be 6.8. Xan747 ✈️ 🧑‍✈️ 16:30, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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	:The agencies that gave 6.8 and 6.9 specified the magnitude subtype (Mww or Mw). Note these are two different magnitude types so they shouldn't be merged. I can't find any sources specifying the 7.0-7.2 magnitude subtypes. Either way, due to the subtypes, I oppose giving a range. '''''[[User:Dora the Axe-plorer\|Dora the Axe-plorer]]''''' ([[User talk:Dora the Axe-plorer\|explore]]) 15:56, 9 September 2023 (UTC)		:The agencies that gave 6.8 and 6.9 specified the magnitude subtype (Mww or Mw). Note these are two different magnitude types so they shouldn't be merged. I can't find any sources specifying the 7.0-7.2 magnitude subtypes. Either way, due to the subtypes, I oppose giving a range. '''''[[User:Dora the Axe-plorer\|Dora the Axe-plorer]]''''' ([[User talk:Dora the Axe-plorer\|explore]]) 15:56, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
			::The 6.8 Mww attributed to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Marrakesh-Safi_earthquake#cite_note-USGSM6.8-11 USGS] is incorrect: that agency publishes in Mw. The 6.9 magnitude attributed to [https://www.globalcmt.org/cgi-bin/globalcmt-cgi-bin/CMT5/form?itype=ymd&yr=2023&mo=9&day=8&oyr=2023&omo=9&oday=9&jyr=1976&jday=1&ojyr=1976&ojday=1&otype=nd&nday=1&lmw=6&umw=10&lms=0&ums=10&lmb=0&umb=10&llat=-90&ulat=90&llon=-180&ulon=180&lhd=0&uhd=1000&lts=-9999&uts=9999&lpe1=0&upe1=90&lpe2=0&upe2=90&list=0 GCMT] is also given in Mw. Like you, I cannot find a subtype specification for the 7.2 published by Morocco, but given that most RS which publish both the USGS and Morocco estimates without distinguishing, I think we're safe to assume they are the same subtype. Finally, the GCMT 6.9 Mw citation is the agency itself. I find it odd that a primary source should trump what the vast majority of RS are reporting; where both are reported, they lead with the USGS 6.8 then the Moroccan 7.2; otherwise they're reporting only the USGS 6.8. So if we're to pick one and only one number for the lead and infobox, it should be 6.8. [[User:Xan747\|Xan747]] [[Special:Contributions/Xan747\|✈️]] [[User talk:Xan747\|🧑‍✈️]] 16:30, 9 September 2023 (UTC)