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No, we're not going to assume anything about the subtypes if they are never specified. Earthquake information should only come from authoritative datasets, not news publications. Nearly every earthquake article on Wikipedia follows what the primary authoritative source indicate. '''''[[User:Dora the Axe-plorer|Dora the Axe-plorer]]''''' ([[User talk:Dora the Axe-plorer|explore]]) 16:36, 9 September 2023 (UTC) |
No, we're not going to assume anything about the subtypes if they are never specified. Earthquake information should only come from authoritative datasets, not news publications. Nearly every earthquake article on Wikipedia follows what the primary authoritative source indicate. '''''[[User:Dora the Axe-plorer|Dora the Axe-plorer]]''''' ([[User talk:Dora the Axe-plorer|explore]]) 16:36, 9 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:Digging further: [https://www.usgs.gov/programs/earthquake-hazards/magnitude-types '''Mww''' (Moment W-phase)(generic notation Mw)] |
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:I read this as Mww and Mw are synonymous. If you feel strongly that the 7.2 Moroccan estimate is unreliable despite being reported in multiple RS, then please delete it from the body of the article. I truly do not understand why you would pick the 6.9 GCMT estimate over USGS's 6.8 when NOBODY in the press is publishing the former and virtually all RS lead with the latter, which is confirmed directly by the primary source. [[User:Xan747|Xan747]] [[Special:Contributions/Xan747|✈️]] [[User talk:Xan747|🧑✈️]] 16:53, 9 September 2023 (UTC) |
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:13, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
2023 Marrakesh-Safi earthquake magnitude
Hi. After my first edit changing from 6.9 to 6.8, I noticed that three different reporting agencies published three different magnitude estimates: 6.8, 6.9 and 7.2. I propose that the lead and infobox give the range as 6.8-7.2. Xan747 ✈️ 🧑✈️ 15:44, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- The agencies that gave 6.8 and 6.9 specified the magnitude subtype (Mww or Mw). Note these are two different magnitude types so they shouldn't be merged. I can't find any sources specifying the 7.0-7.2 magnitude subtypes. Either way, due to the subtypes, I oppose giving a range. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 15:56, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- The 6.8 Mww attributed to the USGS is incorrect: that agency publishes in Mw. The 6.9 magnitude attributed to GCMT is also given in Mw. Like you, I cannot find a subtype specification for the 7.2 published by Morocco, but given that most RS which publish both the USGS and Morocco estimates without distinguishing, I think we're safe to assume they are the same subtype. Finally, the GCMT 6.9 Mw citation is the agency itself. I find it odd that a primary source should trump what the vast majority of RS are reporting; where both are reported, they lead with the USGS 6.8 then the Moroccan 7.2; otherwise they're reporting only the USGS 6.8. So if we're to pick one and only one number for the lead and infobox, it should be 6.8. Xan747 ✈️ 🧑✈️ 16:30, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- The USGS subtype is Mww. Open the page and see carefully.
- The 6.8 Mww attributed to the USGS is incorrect: that agency publishes in Mw. The 6.9 magnitude attributed to GCMT is also given in Mw. Like you, I cannot find a subtype specification for the 7.2 published by Morocco, but given that most RS which publish both the USGS and Morocco estimates without distinguishing, I think we're safe to assume they are the same subtype. Finally, the GCMT 6.9 Mw citation is the agency itself. I find it odd that a primary source should trump what the vast majority of RS are reporting; where both are reported, they lead with the USGS 6.8 then the Moroccan 7.2; otherwise they're reporting only the USGS 6.8. So if we're to pick one and only one number for the lead and infobox, it should be 6.8. Xan747 ✈️ 🧑✈️ 16:30, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
No, we're not going to assume anything about the subtypes if they are never specified. Earthquake information should only come from authoritative datasets, not news publications. Nearly every earthquake article on Wikipedia follows what the primary authoritative source indicate. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 16:36, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- Digging further: Mww (Moment W-phase)(generic notation Mw)
- I read this as Mww and Mw are synonymous. If you feel strongly that the 7.2 Moroccan estimate is unreliable despite being reported in multiple RS, then please delete it from the body of the article. I truly do not understand why you would pick the 6.9 GCMT estimate over USGS's 6.8 when NOBODY in the press is publishing the former and virtually all RS lead with the latter, which is confirmed directly by the primary source. Xan747 ✈️ 🧑✈️ 16:53, 9 September 2023 (UTC)