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Photo

I think it would be cool if we had a photo of Jerry in the info box, as every other character in the show has one. HoolaHoopsSuck (talk) 17:38, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apartment

Season 1, episode 4 shows Jerry's apartment is #411 2607:FB91:FA7:545:B92C:994:61B8:AC2C (talk) 00:37, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup needed

As per a recent flurry of edits, there is a question about whether a major edit is required here. The criticisms are: "excruciatingly boring; far, far too much detail only of interest to devoted fans of the show; childish tone; original research and personal interpretations". This can be discussed in this section rather than yoyo-ing between having a cleanup tag or not. Ttwaring (talk) 20:15, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'm not against a clean-up, but the rationale given tells us nothing on what precisely needs to be cleaned up. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 20:19, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you are not against a cleanup, why did you remove the cleanup template? What do you not understand about the problems I listed? 80.3.192.137 (talk) 21:42, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking for myself, I removed the template because it would be better to agree in the talk page on a clear set of actions to make the article better. For example, examples of paragraphs where there is too much detail, examples of a childish tone, and examples of original research. Something like "boring" might be a bit harder to fix, of course. In brief, more specific criticisms would be useful, and here is the place to list them. Ttwaring (talk) 22:25, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:WNTRMT. If the issue hasn't been resolved, you should not remove the template. 80.3.192.137 (talk) 23:02, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You put up a template with a plethora of issues without explaining at all what they were on the talk page. It just looks like a big complaint of "I don't like this article." You just expect others to figure what your exact issue is. Now a discussion has been started (not by you) and you still haven't shed any light on what needs to be fixed. I'm sure they might very well be legitimate, but you can't expect others to read your mind. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 12:39, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you needed help to see what the problems were, you should have asked. You should not have behaved as aggressively and unpleasantly as you did by simply removing the cleanup template. Do you actually disagree that this article needs major cleanup? 80.3.192.137 (talk) 21:14, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure whether the article needs major cleanup or not. It would be great to have some examples, especially of original research, as Wikipedia in general is especially keen on removing original research.

[ Also to quote from WP:CIVIL: "Consider ignoring isolated examples of incivility, and simply moving forward with the content issue." ]

Ttwaring (talk) 23:15, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you were not sure whether the article needs cleanup or not, you should not have removed the cleanup tag. If you want to see original research, read through all of the sections "Personality", "Background", "Family" and "Relationships". That totals about 2200 words, and about 100 sentences. How many inline references do you see? How many of them are to reliable independent sources? 80.3.192.137 (talk) 04:28, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Revision as of 23:15, 17 October 2023 edit Ttwaring (talk \| contribs) Extended confirmed users, Pending changes reviewers 15,490 edits →‎Cleanup needed: reply ← Previous edit		Revision as of 04:28, 18 October 2023 edit undo 80.3.192.137 (talk) →‎Cleanup needed Next edit →
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			:If you were not sure whether the article needs cleanup or not, you should not have removed the cleanup tag. If you want to see original research, read through all of the sections "Personality", "Background", "Family" and "Relationships". That totals about 2200 words, and about 100 sentences. How many inline references do you see? How many of them are to reliable independent sources? [[Special:Contributions/80.3.192.137\|80.3.192.137]] ([[User talk:80.3.192.137\|talk]]) 04:28, 18 October 2023 (UTC)