Talk:Kill 'Em All

A couple of points worth mentioning

This article points out the fact that Megadeth fans were calling Metallica hypocrites for sending James to rehab and not Dave Mustaine. Putting the ludicrousness of this statement aside, it is worth mentioning that on the SKOM DVD, if you listen to the band's voice commentary, at the bit were Mustaine is griping about not being sent to AA or something, Hetfield (who as we know was not present for the meeting) says, "Dude, if we knew what AA was we would have been there, you know?" I think this is a worthwhile inclusion to the article, certainly in Metallica's defence.

Secondly, the article states that Cliff Burton is credited with coming up with the name 'Kill 'Em All' as a response to weak record distributors. However, I am fairly certain I once read it was actually Ulrich who came up with it. As the story went, Ulrich was famously drunk in some bar and was griping about not being able to call the album 'Metal Up Your Ass'. He began saying "F*ck 'em all" and realised what a great album title that statement would be. Eventually the band agreed upon 'Kill 'Em All' with the former deemed too offensive for the time. I can't confirm this story, so more research is needed into it, but I will try and dig out the book anyway. --LordLovatt 14:56, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

No, it was Cliff that came up with the name "Kill 'Em All." An excerpt from the book Metallica: The Frayed Ends of Sanity by Chris Crocker:

The working title for Metallica's debut album was Metal Up Your Ass. Indelicate, but the band no doubt felt it got the point across. When the prospective album distributor's people heard the title, they promptly informed Jonny Z that he'd better start looking for a new distributor. But the band was adamant. A compromise idea was floated that they go acronymic, calling the album M.U.Y.A., but the band wasn't having it. Ultimately, Jon Zazula trekked up to Rochester to tell the band that their music needed to be given a chance--and it didn't need a title that would close doors for them. After a few forget-it-that-one-sucks reactions to possible new album titles, Cliff Burton's exasperation at the record distributors could contain itself no longer. "Kill 'em all, man," he exclaimed. "Just kill 'em all." It was the only title that worked.

64.90.217.245 04:39, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

why are the last 2 tracks on the album deleted from the playlists "Am I evil" by Diamond Head and "Blitzkrieg" by Blitzkieg? It seems that metallica collected the money and said f-u to the bands that contributed to their fortune.

Are you totally deranged? Sladek 16:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Dave Mustaine

Dave Mustaine made the original version of 'Four Horsemen' called Mechanix. In fact in 'No life til leather' a pre 'kill em all' album by Metallica, the song was called 'Mechanix', and the lyrics were the one's used by Mustaine in his debut Megadeth Album. Metallica edited Mechanix and produced 'Four Horsemen.'

So it is incorrect to state that 'When Dave Mustaine formed Megadeth, he recorded an alternate version of "The Four Horsemen" called "Mechanix", from Killing Is My Business. '

Cause it is exactly the opposite, the anomaly arises cause kill em all was the first to be released.

I noticed that as well. Fixed now.

Megadeth

So, the whole article kind of relies on the reader knowing that "Dave" is the Dave from Megadeth. Maybe instead of listing all kinds of crap details about the dispute, the article should have some info for people who aren't die hard fans of Metallica or Megadeth.

You mean there are people who aren't die-hard fans of Metallica or Megadeth? ;-) 58.178.48.140 09:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Done - added bit about who Dave is 82.69.4.121 10:41, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Thrash Metal

I agree that this might be the first thrash metal album, but who is to say it is not up for debate? That part sounds unprofessional. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia not a review of the album in revolver magazine.

The album title

If its title was "GOTTA Kill'Em All"... Egr, 6/7/2006

That's interesting that Metal up your ass is extremely offensive yet "kill em all" is not? There's something bizarre about that. The Guilty Undertaker 12:02 PM 31 July 2006

POV Explanation

This 'article' reads rather like a review - it is easy to say that 'the album was a great influence on other bands,' but this is an encyclopedia and it needs citations.

Musikxpert 03:15, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

EDIT: Many of today's heavy metal bands very openly cite the early Metallica sound ("Kill 'Em All" most and "...And Justice For All" most notably) as having a huge influence in their sound. I cannot think of any other band specifically on spot besides Bullet For My Valentine but I know for a fact there are more. What I'm trying to say is that there are very many sources (bands that have been quoted) readily available. So much so, that crying so much for one is near pointless.

If it is so readily available it should be easy to source, right?--E tac 10:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)