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When did the short i as in "bill" evolve? Does anybody know. Imhotep is the earliest name I know of with the short I sound, so maybe it is as old as written language? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:TedHuntington|TedHuntington]] ([[User talk:TedHuntington|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TedHuntington|contribs]]) 22:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->
When did the short i as in "bill" evolve? Does anybody know. Imhotep is the earliest name I know of with the short I sound, so maybe it is as old as written language? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:TedHuntington|TedHuntington]] ([[User talk:TedHuntington|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TedHuntington|contribs]]) 22:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->
:The premise of this question seems to be wrong. We can speak about how the English came to have a short [[close front unrounded vowel]] or rather a [[near-close near-front unrounded vowel]]. I think this happened as [[Proto-Germanic]] evolved. The question, when did this sound appear in any language is un-answerable, but probably humans have been making this sound and using it in their language for as long as the language has existed and the shape of the human mouth has been in the form it is. It would thus be a lot older than written language. [[User:Edinborgarstefan|Stefán]] 23:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
:The premise of this question seems to be wrong. We can speak about how the English came to have a short [[close front unrounded vowel]] or rather a [[near-close near-front unrounded vowel]]. I think this happened as [[Proto-Germanic]] evolved. The question, when did this sound appear in any language is un-answerable, but probably humans have been making this sound and using it in their language for as long as the language has existed and the shape of the human mouth has been in the form it is. It would thus be a lot older than written language. [[User:Edinborgarstefan|Stefán]] 23:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I guess that is my question: when did the short-i as in "dill" evolve in human language. We can certainly trace the short-a as in "cat", and the a in "ape" to English since no other language has them. So you are basically stating that, to your knowledge, native people still speak the short-i in "dill" when saying the most ancient words of written history, such as the name "Imhotep"? Perhaps that is about the best any human can do today for the origins of the short-i in "dill". We can say too that the letters that sound the same probably evolved together. For example, b,d,g,k,p,t are all related and l,m,n,r are all related and may have been created around the same time during evolution. [[User:128.200.103.103|128.200.103.103]] 00:01, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I guess that is my question: when did the short-i as in "dill" evolve in human language. We can certainly trace the short-a as in "cat", and the a in "ape" to English since no other language has them. So you are basically stating that, to your knowledge, native people still speak the short-i in "dill" when saying the most ancient words of written history, such as the name "Imhotep"? Perhaps that is about the best any human can do today for the origins of the short-i in "dill". We can say too that the letters that sound the same probably evolved together. For example, b,d,g,k,p,t are all related and l,m,n,r are all related and may have been created around the same time during evolution.
[[User:TedHuntington|TedHuntington]] 00:01, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

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Should there be a note on uppercase vs lowercase of the pronoun?

  • Russian Я (ya) shouldn't be linked to this page. This was a mix-up from the fact that Я translates to the pronoun "I"


In computing

I think that "i" stands for (current) iteration, which is why "i" is used as a loop counter. --Joshtek 15:54, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think thats part of the reason. also i belive that "i" was the first integer variable in fortran. Plugwash
You seem to be correct: http://www.kirupa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58108&page=1&pp=15 Joshtek

A Question

Why on earth does the "i" has a dot? I can understand the dot in Turkish, for distinguishing reasons, but how come there is the period on top also in latin and other languages, and for so many centuries? Ciacchi 16:48, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, nevermind, I found it out. Ciacchi 16:06, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Phil and Jim?

Um, are Phil and Jim people we should know? If so, please expand their significance in relation to using the word "I". Otherwise, please remove this bullet point from the Meanings of I section. Thanks Apatterno 05:00, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Apple's use of the 'i'

Should there be a reference to the use of i in the market world? Such as iPod, iPhone, iRiver, iLife, iTunes etc. --Reverieuk 01:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


When did the short i as in "bill" evolve?

When did the short i as in "bill" evolve? Does anybody know. Imhotep is the earliest name I know of with the short I sound, so maybe it is as old as written language? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TedHuntington (talkcontribs) 22:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

The premise of this question seems to be wrong. We can speak about how the English came to have a short close front unrounded vowel or rather a near-close near-front unrounded vowel. I think this happened as Proto-Germanic evolved. The question, when did this sound appear in any language is un-answerable, but probably humans have been making this sound and using it in their language for as long as the language has existed and the shape of the human mouth has been in the form it is. It would thus be a lot older than written language. Stefán 23:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I guess that is my question: when did the short-i as in "dill" evolve in human language. We can certainly trace the short-a as in "cat", and the a in "ape" to English since no other language has them. So you are basically stating that, to your knowledge, native people still speak the short-i in "dill" when saying the most ancient words of written history, such as the name "Imhotep"? Perhaps that is about the best any human can do today for the origins of the short-i in "dill". We can say too that the letters that sound the same probably evolved together. For example, b,d,g,k,p,t are all related and l,m,n,r are all related and may have been created around the same time during evolution. TedHuntington 00:01, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]