Talk:PlayStation Portable

I don't the PSP is region free as Sony had told us, because doesn't the back of the Ridge Racers Japanese version have a region 2 code on it? How could those bastards lie to us!? What about the people who bought an import PSP to have first and show off and later play U.S games on!?

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It says 19th for the release in europe... why the heck would they release it on a tuesday? It's more likely to be released on monday 28th.

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--195.137.77.107 17:40, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Chris Ducat 01:19, Apr 26, 2004 (UTC): Hi everyone! I created this article, stupidly forgetting to look for other PSP articles. Is anybody good at merging articles? I like mine better, but I don't care which absorbs into which.

I assume this has been done? Thue | talk 19:35, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Price

unreal Hi. I edited the page a bit, you have written a very good article. I changed the pricing details, as a strong source has revealed it wil cost $200 on release, but may rise to not more than $250, however, not as low as $150 as was stated in the original version of the article (The DS will cost $150). The release date is also set to be March 2005, so I added that. I also added a PSP forum at psp-forum.com, which contains all the latest PSP news as it comes.

SockatumeReally scary news regarding that- Gamespot had a news page up (briefly) which claimed it had a confirmed price of $350. It's taken down now which hopefully means it was totally inaccurate and definately won't be the real price at all. I hope. :/

AP article in the Sunday newspaper 9-26 - Ken Kutaragi (chief executive of Sony Computer Entertainment) refused to give a price for the PSP saying he wants to first gauge reaction at the Tokyo Game Show. ... Kazuya Yamamoto, analyst with UFJ Tsubasa Securities Co in Tokyo added that retailers expect a price of about 30,000 yen ($271), which may be a trifle steep. Petersam 04:00, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Here's a link http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear/entertainment/2004-09-24-psport_x.htm Petersam 04:27, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I feel this user is full of it, he has no source the price will be $200-250, Sony has said it will be LESS than $200. PSPs japanese price is the same as the japanese PS2 price which costs $150 usd.

cold wolf: We should probably edit it to say the price is unknown, because it has yet to be confirmed. However, converting the price in Japan would put it at lower than USD 200, so that should be noted. Also, the official release date is not known either, other than it'll be released sometime in March. I would have put all this in, but it's locked. Dammit.

Screens

Armaced Sep 14, 2004: I was wondering about the statement "PSPs screen is larger than both DS's combined". I did some checking, but am not confident enough in my numbers yet to correct the article. My understanding is that the PSP will have one 16x9 screen that measures 4.3 inches diagonally, while the Nintendo DS will have two 4x3 screens that each measure 3 inches diagonally. Brushing off my old geometry, I get the Sony screen coming in at 7.9 square inches, and the Nintendo screens weighing in at 4.32 square inches each, for a total of 8.64 square inches - bigger than the Sony PSP.

More details - Nintendo Screens are each 2.4 inches wide and 1.8 inches tall. Sony's screen is about 3.74777481 inches wide by 2.10812333 inches tall.

Can anyone find a fault in my math, or should we remove that statement?

Moot point, I removed all DS-related stuff anyway.

Sockatume 16:42, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Good call. Armaced 00:43, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)

PSP 480 x 272 x 1 (16.77 million colors/24 bit) 130,560 pixels DS 256 x 192 x 2 (262,144 colors/18 bit) 98,304 pixels 130,560 > 98,304

ThePhiphler Sorry, but those pixel counts are misleading. Pixels and screen sizr is NOT the same thing. Basically, the PSP has more pixels, but a smaller screen, compared to the DS.

Disk access

I sat and figured this out for a forum, and decided I've put in too much effort not to repost it somewhere, so...

It'd be naive to assume that the movie battery life reflects the "absolute minimum" we can expect for the PSP's battery life; to do so would assume the disk was being accessed constantly during the test. That's not necessarily the case:

Right, I've sat down and calculated it, and if Sony were running a single-layer UMD movie there, the disk was accessing around 9% of the play time.

If it was a dual-layer movie UMD, the disk was being accessed around 18% of the play time.

Both of these assume that the full 32MB of memory was being used to cache movie data, that it was loading a full 32MB every time the cache emptied (i.e. the disk was only running each time the cache emptied), and that the UMD was transferring at the full quoted 11Mbps rate. Also, I assumed that it was a 120-minute movie.

Now, if the UMD drive was running less than the optimal level, they would've been accessing the disk for longer.

If, on the other hand, they were using a more than 2 hour movie UMD, then they would've been accessing the disk less often.

I say this as it should give some sort of indication as to how much disk access the PSP can get away with while still meeting the 4 hour minimum battery life estimate.

My working and extra factioids:

900MB/32MB = ~29

A 900MB single-layer UMD, being cached into 32MB segments, would require ~29 segments.

120 min/29 = ~4 min

The drive is being accessed to copy 32MB every four minutes.

32MB/4 min = 8MB/min; 8MB of data is being transferred every minute, on average.

11Mbs^-1/8 Bb^-1 = 1.375MBs^-1

That's the drive access rate converted to MB.

8MB/1.375MBs^-1 = 5.82s

That is, it takes 5.28s to transfer that 8MB.

5.82s x 100%/60s = 8.8%

That is, that 5.82s accounts for 8.8% of the play time each minute, on average.

To get the figures for a 1.8GB (1800MB) dual-layered UMD, just double the starting memory value; this comes out at around 18%.

Sockatume 17:23, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Question

Does it run GNU/Linux? G-u-a-k-@ 12:48, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

It's only been on sale for about a day, give the modders some time. ;) With the flashable firmware, I'd say it's a possibility in future. Sockatume 14:17, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

1-333?

The 1-333 speed for the CPU is very ambigous - does it mean 1 to 333Mhz, or 1.333Mhz (hah!), or 1,333Mhz (which could be painfully hot). Should replace the '-' with a 'to' if its the first case. Kiand 19:10, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'll change it to "to", it's listed as 1-333MHz in the spec sheet but according to pretty much everywhere it's "up to 333MHz". Sockatume 22:18, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

1-333MHz means one 333Mhz processors, the psp has multiple processors

ThePhiphler; wrong answer. The PSP has 1 processor, with 2 cores. This sounds confusing, but its not two 333Mhz processors. Its one multicore 333Mhz processor.

The 1-333 MHz refers to the PSP's ability to find the optimal processing speed to maximize battery life. A simple game such as Lumines would use less than 200 MHz of processing power, thus increasing the battery life, while a game that's graphically intensive, such as Ridge Racer, might use 300 MHz. So the PSP has the ability to throttle it's CPU speed depending on the application it's asked to run. So far, most developers said that the current magic number for the PSP is 222 MHz. --66.125.93.210 14:50, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Unprotect

Some one need to temporaly unprotect this, as their is vandalism being protected. --Boothy443 03:30, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Yup look at the Operating system section

Got rid of it, but I'm not unprotecting the page at this point. It's way too soon. I'll let someone who's more familar with these types of situations handle it at the appropriate time. RedWordSmith 03:51, Jan 24, 2005 (UTC)

Isn't everybody suposed to be able to edit? Unlock it!!!!

great image

http://www.tokyopia.com/deluxe/pspwned.jpg

Ahem, currently, its quite the opposite, since the PSP hasnt even launched yet in the US.

Indeed, while many are very impressed with their imported PSPs, Sony still have to get the things on sale before they'll be able to actually compete with the DS. Talk of 1M units per month from April onwards bodes well, but they're taking their time about it, especially considering the vast sales of their competitor. Sockatume 00:15, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/Supremejin/a46c.jpg

EBGames

I was just on ebgames web site looking at the PSP bundle when I noticed the following text:

Due to the size and weight of this item, an additional shipping and handling charge of $5.00 will be added to your order.

Ha! It's meant to fit in your pocket. I know, I know.... I just thought it was funny. Armaced 23:23, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Logical Spock-esque unasked-for explaination: they probably put a flat packaging charge on all "console" sales, including handhelds. Which would be silly but not outside the realms of possiblity Sockatume 23:34, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Makes sense. Thanks, Spockatume.  :) -Armaced 23:36, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Cleanup

Edited and saved to remove phrase "THIS REALLY SUCKS!!!!" from Japanese Launch section.

Requested move

PlayStation Portable → PSP – RARELY is the acronym PSP used for ANYTHING other than the PlayStation Portable — Nick Catalano 23:35, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Object. Nickname, and PSP also regularly means Paint Shop Pro, down to its native file format using .psp extensions. Kiand 23:45, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Response. Yes, but rarely. People come to the PSP page expecting discussion about the Playstation Portable. If they think of something else, there is always PSP (disambiguation) Nick Catalano 23:48, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • So redirect. DO NOT move - it has not, and never will be, called the PSP - thats always going to be an acronym. Kiand 00:50, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Definitely object, as above. -Sean Curtin 00:03, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
• Object - the disambiguation page is easy enough to understand for a first time user looking for the Sony device. Also, after the redirect, I like that Playstation Portable is spelled out at the top of the page. -Armaced 20:15, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose. The general consensus seems to be to use the name not the acronym in computer-related article titles. See Talk:File Transfer Protocol#Requested move for a simular recent discussion. Jonathunder 20:28, 2005 Apr 7 (UTC)
• Object. I agree with Kiand; up until a few weeks ago, the top Google result for "PSP" was to Jasc Software, Inc., the creators of Paint Shop Pro --Markyen 22:48, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
• Object. Paint Shop Pro is still quite popular. A Man In Black 18:58, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Object. Sockatume 01:15, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Object. Popular nickname for Playstation 2 is PS2, even in official capacity, but that is not its name either. Terrapin 09:51, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)