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This is a very concerning userbox considering the recent events because Wikipedia has Israeli users. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 02:56, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how it is concerning, considering the userbox User:Mr A/Palestine is around and contains a similar wording. Furthermore, would you say the same about User:Brobbz/Zionist considering Wikipedia having Palestinian users? or Template:User_Support_Israel, User:Oren neu dag/my userboxes/User One-State Solution and User:Valley2city/Userboxes/User anti-disengagement that apparently call for expantionism? or even User:WaddlesJP13/Userbox/Otzma Yehudit and User:WaddlesJP13/Userbox/Religious Zionist Party which clearly manifest a support for far-right parties? I think that proceeding to delete this userbox - which again, I stand by it having nothing that goes against WP:UP - and leaving the ones I mentioned screams bias. [edited] — Yours Truly, ⚑ AtikaAtikawa 03:11, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is significantly more problematic than User:Mr A/Palestine, which clarifies what is meant. Which use of From the river to the sea is intended in this userbox? Delete, inflammatory. —Kusma (talk) 15:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This userbox advocates for abolishment, elimination, destruction of the State of Israel and therefore extending the territory of the State of Palestine over all of its territory. As both Israel and Palestine are ethnocratic nation states in character, bringing all of the (then-former) Israelis under the rule of a state with a predominant Palestinian Arab character can not happen peacefully, and the Jews are a majority demographically on this territory so imposing a state that does not symbolically represent this majority, and only bears the ethnic character of the minority is an extremist fantasy, that is most commonly resolved by imagining mass expulsion, which is then justified by evil deeds of Israel.—Alalch E. 09:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've yet to see proofs that Palestine is ethnocratic in character. Rather it's just a secularised name of the land unlike "Israel", at least the name isn't considering that you can't say the same about Mandatory Palestine and that it was literally used by the early zionist organisations for example. Furthermore, stating the demographics of that land is weird, please keep in mind that there are a lot of Palestinians who are expulsed from it and still bear the right to return. — Yours Truly, ⚑ AtikaAtikawa 13:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and Alalch E. — Sundostund mppria ^{(talk / contribs)} 19:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Delete'''. This userbox advocates for abolishment, elimination, destruction of the State of Israel and therefore extending the territory of the State of Palestine over all of its territory. As both Israel and Palestine are [[ethnocratic]] nation states in character, bringing all of the (then-former) Israelis under the rule of a state with a predominant Palestinian Arab character can not happen peacefully, and the Jews are a majority demographically on this territory so imposing a state that does not symbolically represent this majority, and only bears the ethnic character of the minority is an extremist fantasy, that is most commonly resolved by imagining mass expulsion, which is then justified by evil deeds of Israel.—[[User talk:Alalch E.|Alalch E.]] 09:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 *:I've yet to see proofs that Palestine is ethnocratic in character. Rather it's just a secularised name of the land unlike "Israel", at least the name isn't considering that you can't say the same about Mandatory Palestine and that it was literally used by the early zionist organisations for example. Furthermore, stating the demographics of that land is weird, please keep in mind that there are a lot of Palestinians who are expulsed from it and still bear the right to return. <span style="color:#458B74;font-style:italic">— Yours Truly,</span> '''[[User:AtikaAtikawa|<span style="font-family:Monospace;border-width:2px;border-style:solid;color:#000;background-color:#fff;padding:2px 5px">⚑ AtikaAtikawa</span>]]''' 13:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
+* '''Delete''' per nom and Alalch E. — [[User:Sundostund|<b><span style="color:green">Sundostund</span></b>]] [[Manu propria|<span style="color:green">''mppria''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Sundostund|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Sundostund|contribs]])</sup> 19:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)