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In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Niki_(Greek_political_party)&diff=prev&oldid=1233160657 this edit], and at least one that followed, you called contributions by [[User:L.S. WikiCleaner]] "vandalism". Can you please read or re-read [[WP:VAND]] and either explain how those edits were vandalistic or apologize? [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 16:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:They keep changing the tone without consensus. Isn't that vandalism? [[User:Michalis1994|Michalis1994]] ([[User talk:Michalis1994#top|talk]]) 17:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::No. Any good-faith effort to improve the page is not vandalism. [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 18:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks - I did not know the difference as I am quite new here, but I can certainly familiriase myself with those rules. Should I post an apology in the talk page or somehow remove the edit description? [[User:Michalis1994|Michalis1994]] ([[User talk:Michalis1994#top|talk]]) 18:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::::You can't change the edit summary, which is why we [[H:ES|advise they stay as neutral and civil as possible]]. A user talk page comment would be good. [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 18:41, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== July 2024 == |
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<div class="user-block uw-block" style="padding: 5px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; border: 1px solid #a9a9a9; background-color: #ffefd5; min-height: 40px">[[File:Stop x nuvola with clock.svg|40px|left|alt=Stop icon with clock]]<div style="margin-left:45px">You have been '''[[WP:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing for a period of '''48 hours''' for [[WP:Edit warring|edit warring]], as you did at [[:Niki (Greek political party)]]. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to [[WP:Five pillars|make useful contributions]]. </div><div style="margin-left:45px">During a dispute, you should first try to [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|discuss controversial changes]] and seek [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]]. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]], and in some cases it may be appropriate to request [[Wikipedia:Protection policy|page protection]].</div><div style="margin-left:45px">If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's [[WP:Guide to appealing blocks|guide to appealing blocks]], then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. --><code><nowiki>{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}</nowiki></code>. [[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 16:39, 9 July 2024 (UTC)</div></div><!-- Template:uw-ewblock --> |
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{{unblock reviewed|reason=I strongly believe this decision is unnecessary and overly harsh. According to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring#Exemptions 3RR policy], it is explicitly stated that in instances of clear vandalism by banned users, I am permitted to revert the article to its original state. After observing that an [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Niki_(Greek_political_party)&diff=prev&oldid=1233536135 IP address], unequivocally linked to the blocked user [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/L.S._WikiCleaner L.S. WikiCleaner], continued editing [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:L.S._WikiCleaner#July_2024 post-ban] (within minutes after the block was implemented!), I made the decision to restore the article's original content and ask users to contribute to the talk page. I am perplexed as to why I have been blocked, as I acted within the exemptions outlined in the 3RR policy. Exemption No.3: '''Reverting actions performed by banned users in violation of a ban, and sockpuppets or meatpuppets of banned or blocked users'''. I even brought this to the attention of [[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bbb23#Return_of_L.S._WikiCleaner who ignored my plea and instead warned me for something totally unrelated.] This situation strikes me as unjust and I believe the block should be lifted. Update: the article has now been [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Niki%20(Greek%20political%20party)&diff=prev&oldid=1233542076 protected] by [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]]. [[User:Michalis1994|Michalis1994]] ([[User talk:Michalis1994#top|talk]]) 16:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)|decline=I think CoffeeCrumbs' assessment of this situation is correct. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 08:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)}} |
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* Leaving this unblock review for another admin, but given the continued unwarranted claims of vandalism—after an initial warning—I'm delivering the below final warning as an AE sanction. [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 16:57, 9 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Michalis1994, the problem here is that what you did is ''not'' obviously one of the exceptions. You've already been told that the edits themselves are not obvious vandalism, so that's not an exception from edit-warring. And while I very strongly suspect that the edit after the previous editor was blocked was made by a sockpuppet of the blocked editor, strong suspicion is a pretty weak hook to hang your coat on when the underlying edit was not obvious vandalism, and you were already clearly edit-warring before. You can't just mush together two partial exceptions together -- an edit that could be bad but wasn't obvious vandalism and a possible sockpuppet -- to get one clear one. It would have been far better to leave the article alone if there was no obvious vandalism, take your concerns to SPI, and let them sort it out before any further actions. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 20:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Niki_(Greek_political_party)&diff=prev&oldid=1233525021 this ip] restore Michalis edition |
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:and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Niki_(Greek_political_party)&diff=prev&oldid=1233536135 this ip] restore WikiCleaner edition. [[User:D.S. Lioness|D.S. Lioness]] ([[User talk:D.S. Lioness|talk]]) 00:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC) |
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You have been sanctioned for continued personal attacks after a warning. |
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*Michalis1994, you are not permitted to remove a declined unblock request.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 20:48, 10 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== Why did you revert my edit in Voice of Reason == |
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Just because you hold a (liberal) political position (as seen in your main page, you literally support a terrorist organisation), dosent mean you can revert sourced edits that literally unbiases everything! |
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I did what has already been done on [[Greek Solution]], which is to replace far right with right wing to far right! |
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The worst thing is that far left isnt used on communist parties! [[Special:Contributions/2A02:85F:F85C:671B:2859:A139:83FA:26B|2A02:85F:F85C:671B:2859:A139:83FA:26B]] ([[User talk:2A02:85F:F85C:671B:2859:A139:83FA:26B|talk]]) 11:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC) |
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