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This user talk page was created as part of the 1013 Project. It was used by one of the members of an introductory composition class at the University of Minnesota. The project was active from April 16 to May 9, 2007, and has now been archived at User:1013-josh/archive. This user may or may not still be active on Wikipedia.

1013 Project Notes Archived

Hi Dan, Thanks for learning Wikipedia with me and the class. I have moved your workshop notes and all the other content from your talk page to User:1013-Dan/archive. If you stick around Wikipedia after class is over, you can continue to use this account for new contributions, and you'll have a fresh start with a clean talk page. 1013-josh 00:14, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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-== My Project ==
+== 1013 Project Notes Archived ==
+Hi Dan, Thanks for learning Wikipedia with me and the class. I have moved your workshop notes and all the other content from your talk page to [[User:1013-Dan/archive]]. If you stick around Wikipedia after class is over, you can continue to use this account for new contributions, and you'll have a fresh start with a clean talk page. [[User:1013-josh|1013-josh]] 00:14, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
-I will be adding an entry titled [[Doppler spectroscopy]].  I will be focusing on the astronomical procedure of searching for distant planets.  Mostly all of the known worlds were discovered using doppler spectroscopy.  This method is very important in the search for new planets and I believe it deserves its own entry into Wikipedia.  The astrophysics behind doppler spectroscopy are too complex for me, but I think I will be able to provide plenty of information in a simple yet informative manner.
-Exact titles of five Wikipedia articles that I could use as a model for my article:
-<blockquote>
-•[[Atomic spectroscopy]]<br />
-•[[Mass spectrometry]]<br />
-•[[Interstellar planetary mass object]]<br />
-•[[White dwarf]]<br />
-•[[Ultraviolet-visible spectroscopy]]<br />
-</blockquote>
-Exact titles of five Wikipedia articles that I will consider linking from my entry:
-<blockquote>
-•[[Spectroscopy]]<br />
-•[[Doppler effect]]<br />
-•[[Extrasolar planet]]<br />
-•[[Astronomical spectroscopy]]<br />
-•[[Spectrometer]]<br />
-</blockquote>
-:'''Thoughts from Josh.''' Jeepers! This sounds like a good project, but you're about twelve feet over my head. I'm looking forward to learning something new. The one potential problem is that I don't know enough about your subject to judge whether it deserves its own 1500+ word article in Wikipedia. Does Doppler spectroscopy differ enough from the other types listed on the main [[Spectroscopy]] entry to deserve its own page? It's a little suspicious to me that there is not even a stub on Doppler when there are full articles already on the other types. Are you sure it's not just another name for one of these other types? That's my only concern. If you know  enough about the science to ensure that you're not duplicating work that already exists under a separate article, and if you are able to provide general information without being an expert in astrophysics, then I think it sounds like a great topic. Have you started looking for research material yet? If you have any questions about your project proposal, write me a note here, and write "QUESTION FOR JOSH" in the edit summary box when you hit the "save page" button. I'll stop by later to answer.  [[User:1013-josh|1013-josh]] 20:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
-== Workshop: [[Doppler spectroscopy]] ==
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-|On [[2 May]], [[2007]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[Doppler spectroscopy]]''''', which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|"Did you know?" talk page]].
-|} <!-- [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]], [[{{CURRENTYEAR}}]] --> --<span style="font-family:Verdana; ">'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 20:14, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
-''[[User talk:1013-josh#Workshop Week: Friday, April 27, to Friday, May 4|Workshop Guidelines]]''
-'''Discussions'''
-Hey Dan.  Here are three links for the editing part of the project.  These links go to your group members' talk pages FOR THEIR ARTICLE.  Find your name (Discussion: Dan) and write in that section items that you changed in their article (also you could ask quick questions there, too).  [[User:1013-andy|1013-andy]] 03:38, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
-:[[Talk:Great Lakes Areas of Concern]] - Kate
-:[[Talk:Crocodile Lake National Wildlife Refuge]] - Andy
-:[[Talk:Black Belt (region of Chicago)]] - Precious
-Dan,
-:Wow, haha, this stuff is almost over my head... I'm not sure if I'm going to be much of a help for finding other information about your topic or suggesting any changes about either!  Otherwise, I think that the article is very, very scientific and looks professional.  If you could elaborate more on the history section, I think some things will begin to click more for me if know a lot of background about the topic.  Oh, I wrote a little bit about this earlier in [[Talk:Doppler spectroscopy|your article's talk page]], but you should add some stuff to your See Also section.  Just something that we're supposed to have.  Otherwise, I'm just going to be mainly assisting with the footnoting and referencing formats (which you seem to have a good handle on, already).  Let me know if you've got questions.  [[User:1013-andy|1013-andy]] 05:38, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
-Hi, I've nominated an article you worked on, [[Doppler spectroscopy]], for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of [[Wikipedia:Did you know]]. You can see the "hook" for the article at [[Template talk:Did you know#Articles created on April 27]] where you can improve it if you see fit. [[User:1013-josh|1013-josh]] 22:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
-Hey Dan, i went over your article and i changed a couple of grammar errors, but overall you are on a good start. I like the graphs and math equations you used, i think it goes well with your topic. I never heard about this topic but from reading it sounds interesting and you organized the information well. I think if you can find a little more information, that would be great for your article. I plan to stop by your page to see if you have added anything so i can contribute.[[User:1013-precious|1013-precious]] 03:49, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[[User:1013-precious|1013-precious]] 03:59, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
-...So I'm not sure what y'all have going on with workshop. Am I supposed to comment here? Or over at the article talk page? You seem to be doing a bit of both. I'll respond here. This is an excellent article that makes a significant contribution to Wikipedia by adding new information in an emerging area of science. You do outstanding work in making the subject approachable for the general reader. The article is enhanced by the graph you uploaded and the equations, and it appears authoritatively sourced. I was impressed that you went back to the primary source to cite Struve's 1952 proposal, and actually I thought maybe you could do more with it in your article. I think one area for expansion is in the opening history section. I'd love to see an outline of the intellectual history of Doppler spectroscopy, how Struve came upon the idea, what it was used for between 1952 and the mid 1990s, and what were the technological advances that allowed it to be applied to discovering exoplanets in recent years. You could also include more information about those observatories and any other observatories where Doppler spectroscopy equipment is presently housed. I think you also have some questions to solve about how to incorporate this article within the larger Wikipedia body of knowledge. How do you plan to link it from [[extrasolar planets]]? Should you incorporate some of this material under the radial velocity section there? Should you incorporate some of that material here? How does this piece fit together with that article? How does it fit together with [[Spectroscopy]]? How does it fit with other articles? You could also benefit from adding wikilinks. How about a link to [[Otto Struve]], for example? You may want to post a request for feedback at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Astronomy]]. Good work. [[User:1013-josh|1013-josh]] 13:40, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
-'''You're on the Main Page!'''
-Hi Dan, your article is currently featured on the [[Main Page]] of Wikipedia in the "Did You Know?" fact box. It will be up there for the next 6+ hours. You may get some strangers stopping by your article as a result, so check the page history. [[User:1013-josh|1013-josh]] 18:49, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
-Okay Dan.  So I'm done with editing your article.  Very nicely done and I think this article should be nominated for getting a "Good Article" rating (an article that is given a rating for being a very well done article... not many get it).  Check out [[WP:GA]] for info on that.  Anyway, so yeah, if you need anything else (like you would... ha) let me know.  Again, well done.  [[User:1013-andy|1013-andy]] 05:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
-== Participation: Dan ==
-*Added external links and fixed a grammatical error to the Contributions section in Precious' article
-*I completely reformatted Kate's last section on "what you can do."
-*Added internal link to acid rain in Kate's article
-*Nonpoint Source Pollution - deleted last sentance in Kate's article
-*Point Source Pollution - edited wording of paragraph in Kate's article
-*Invasive Species - added internal links, edited paragraph wording in Kate's article
-*Changed Kate's main paragraph to flow better
-== Homework ==
-Done with Wednesday's assignment. I added a line to the end of the third paragraph in the synopsis section of the article [[Jaws (film)]]. Someone deleted it right away. [[User:1013-Dan|1013-Dan]] 15:43, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
-:Good work. Couple of technical things. First, add a new line for each homework in this section, rather than deleting the old one and writing over it. Second, in the future, please remember to log in when you do your homework assignments. I'm assuming [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jaws_%28film%29&diff=next&oldid=123652722 this is you], but I can't tell for sure. When you aren't logged in, your ip address (a string of numbers) shows up in place of your user id. Also, remember to add a comment to the [[edit summary]] box to make it easier for other users to follow your changes. You may want to add the film page to your [[Help:Watching pages|watchlist]] so you can see what becomes of the article. I see you got reverted right away on account of "extraneous details." It's hard to edit an article like Jaws that so many people have edited and have your revision accepted by the community. Kind of funny, isn't it, that some anonymous stranger on Wikipedia is watching the Jaws article at all hours of the day? [[User:1013-josh|1013-josh]] 17:39, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
-I consent [[User:1013-Dan|1013-Dan]] 16:48, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
-:Okay, great! Let me know at any time if you change your mind and would like to switch to an off-line research assignment. [[User:1013-josh|1013-josh]] 18:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
-Done with April 23<sup>rd</sup> assignment. [[User:1013-Dan|1013-Dan]] 15:36, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
-:Good work. Looking forward to the rough draft. [[User:1013-josh|1013-josh]] 17:58, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
-Done with April 27th assignment.  [[User:1013-Dan|1013-Dan]] 16:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
-:Gotcha. [[User:1013-josh|1013-josh]] 21:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
-Done with my [[Doppler spectroscopy]] and [[Geneva Extrasolar Planet Search]] articles. [[User:1013-Dan|1013-Dan]] 18:29, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
-== Notes from Josh & the Class ==
-Hey, I just posted some [[User:1013-josh/homework#Wednesday, April 18|helpful research links]]; don't miss them! [[User:1013-josh|1013-josh]] 21:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
-Hey Dan this is Andy from your group.  I was just wondering how you got the "Contents" box to show up on your draft page.  It's the box that is at the very top and it says "Contents" <nowiki>[hide]</nowiki> and underneath it has numbered headings that you have in the whole article.  Just wondering if you did anything special to get that.  I'm thinking that perhaps you have a lot of headings so Wikipedia creates a convenient box for easier navigation.  Just wondering.  [[User:1013-andy|1013-andy]] 04:28, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
-'''Discussion for Precious' Article'''
-Dan, it's Andy again, I just wanted to let you know that I created a talk page on Precious' article. This is where we could communicate with her (and her with us) about her article.
-Follow this link: [[Talk:Black Belt (region of Chicago)]] and look for Discussion: Dan. This is where you will ask/answer your/her questions.  [[User:1013-andy|1013-andy]] 20:21, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
-== Notes from Wikipedians ==
-''Wikipedians, if you're commenting specifically about the [[Doppler spectroscopy]] article, feel free to chime in in the "Workshop" section above.''
-==[[Doppler spectroscopy]]==
-I am afraid I have beaten up your article a little, rearranging, copyediting, adding an animated image, etc.  I have also added some hidden comments (<nowiki><!--like this--></nowiki> - you will need to edit the article to see them) suggesting further areas that could be explored.
-But bravo - an excellent article. -- [[User:ALoan|ALoan]] [[User talk:ALoan|(Talk)]] 16:18, 3 May 2007 (UTC)