Talk:Murder of Kelsey Smith

Disappearance

Could end up being a notable case, but it would make sense for anyone revising the article, to spell disappearance correctly, and move it to Kelsey Smith.ǂ---Sturmde 00:11, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Notable?

While many people do go missing every day, not all of them get a 20-minute segment on Fox News (which I was watching last night, purely for comedic value, I swear!). I logged on to the Wiki to see if she had an article, and she did. While I hadn't heard of her until I watched the "special" news last night, it does seem like this is a nationally recognized name.

However, I will not oppose a deletion, as a Google search for "Kelsey Smith" doesn't even turn up with this Kelsey Smith as the first entry, and many of the other entries there are not about this Kelsey Smith. (I know that Google searches aren't the end-all-be-all of notability criteria, but come on.) –King Bee ^{(τ • γ)} 13:08, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

It's nice to know you watch news specials about kidnapped, murdered teenagers for comedic value. Talmage 08:39, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Technically, a Google search for 'Kelsey Smith' returns a news article relating to the kidnapping as the first link, so you can say that she has become notable if that is one of your criteria.

True, many people go missing every day, but not all of them receive the kind of national attention this case has. That alone in my opinion makes it a notable case and not a candidate for deletion.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.61.11.254 (talk • contribs)

It's not really one of the criteria, but I use it kind of as a litmus test just to see what's going on. I also don't count that news article as the first link, because that is a "Google News" link, not a regular website link. –King Bee ^{(τ • γ)} 15:39, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying, but I don't believe the average Google user makes a distinction between a 'Google News' link and a regular search link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.61.11.254 (talk • contribs)

Now that I've remembered my login, perhaps my objection to deletion will carry more weight. This case has received massive national media attention in the past four days, granting it notability above and beyond other missing persons cases, similar to previously nationally discussed cases such as JonBenet Ramsey or Polly Klass. Discolando 16:31, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Definitely don't deleate. It is getting a lot of coverage. And with time it will only grow. Once they arrest someone I'm sure the trial will be big news too. Wait and see.

Something (or somebody) is not notable simply for something they have done, but about the interest around the person, item, or event. This is very noteworthy, and is recieving wide media interest. Most notably because the incident was captrued on camera. And now that she is dead, the interest will only grow, along with the interest in the topic of security cameras. 75.120.97.221 21:28, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I say keep the article until her news coverage runs out. I say this because it's still developing, and if she becomes a big story then she is notable, but not yet. If anything, this is a case of missing white woman syndrome in the media.

I'm convinced this is going to continue to be a major case due to the low crime rate in the Overland Park, Olathe suburbs. (I'm from Olathe). The fact is this kind of stuff doesn't happen around here and a lot of people are going to keep this at the front of the news. Also the unique cellphone pings used to locate her body are not usually used and is a noteworhty techinque. The case is definatly worthy of a wiki entry.

Death:

KSHB-TV confirmed the body is that of Kelsey Smith, I cannot cite my source as their website is being hammered at the moment. If you need to confirm my edit please listen to there livestream via Windows Media Player: http://mfile.akamai.com/14326/live/reflector:50320.asx?prop=n AcePuppy 20:34, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

• Reference link added AcePuppy 20:45, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Does anybody think this will turn into a Laci Peterson like trial? I'm really itching to edit a wikipedia article from start to finish. Ksharpe126

Not too much like the Laci Peterson case because Scott Peterson is still in prison. But someone has already added this tragic case to Missing white woman syndrome. Edison 23:30, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

MySpace Page

I have added her myspace page as an external link, moderators may delete at their discretion if you feel inappropriate. http://www.myspace.com/bandbaby2007 AcePuppy 18:24, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

• How did you find her myspace page

Ksharpe126

• • How her MySpace was found shouldn't be of concern. AcePuppy 18:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Reformating

• Renamed Timeline to overview (a timeline is not nessisarry at this point)
• added small changes
• suggestions

 - Should we add a photo of the "suspect" who im pretty sure is the guy they've arrested in her murder. or should we hold off?
 - Does the Deletion notice still need to be there?  this is gonna be notable for a while.

Removing Deletion Notice

This has been sufficiently fleshed out, and since I have read no further requests for deletion, I am removing the deletion notice immediately. 75.61.11.254 18:54, 7 June 2007 (UTC)