User talk:Hersfold

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RE: Hey, how's it going?

Got it. I'll keep an eye for changes to the adoption page. --Audacitor 17:37, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I'll just leave a small note here every time I respond to changes on the adoption page. That way you'll know right away when I've responded. --Audacitor 17:55, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Good idea. I wish there was a way to set up that orange "new messages" box elsewhere. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:57, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Ping! 19:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Audacitor (talk • contribs).

Ping and Pong! 19:37, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Ping! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Audacitor (talk • contribs) 00:02, August 21, 2007 (UTC).

Ping! Audacitor^(t•c) 20:02, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Ping! --$\alpha$$\upsilon$$\delta$$\alpha$$\zeta$$\iota$$\tau$$\sigma$$\Gamma$^{(t$\bullet$c)} 18:17, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Ping! --Audacitor^{(t$\bullet$c)} 02:04, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

HOW

How do you get that thing that says if your ONLINE/OFFLINE? HIYO 20:56, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello! That's from User:StatusBot, an automated account that checks my contributions to see if I'm active. You can check the bot's userpage for more information, or just add {{User:StatusBot/Template}} to your user page. It takes a few minutes to start working properly, but once it does, it'll work just like mine does. Enjoy! Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:10, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

• How long exactly does it take to work. HIYO 21:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Usually about five minutes or so. The bot only updates every few minutes so it doesn't blow up the server. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

• I have been here For 5 min. and it does not work. Did i enter it wrong? HIYO 21:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Looks like it's working to me. It says you're currently online. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 22:03, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

• Really, because when I look at it it says Invalid Status. HIYO 22:06, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Click this link and see what happens. That should purge the server's cache. If that doesn't work, clear out your own browser's cache (in Firefox, CTRL+SHIFT+R). Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 22:09, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks, it work now. HIYO 22:11, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that Award!

Thanks Hersfold! I wasn't expecting that at all, but now I've got a reason to set up my awards page!

Also, I'm ready for the copyvio lesson too (unless there's more cleanup).

--Audacitor^(t•c) 09:55, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Help!! Template:Lamu Archipelago

I was a bit over-optemistic, and tried to create Template:Lamu Archipelago. I turns out it is far more complicated than I thought. Basically, I´m trying to get what is in the "overview"-section in the different articles in Lamu Archipelago-series into *one* template, so the user can easily navigate between the different places. Can you help me? Regards, Huldra 14:12, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Sure. It sounds like you're trying to design a navigational template - are you looking for something that sits along the side of the page, like {{Deletiondebates}}, or something that sits at the bottom and is probably collapsable like {{Members of the European Union (EU)}}? I can look for the appropriate coding for each of those while I wait for your reply. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 14:17, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Whaw, that was fast, and yes; I was thinking in line with: {{Deletiondebates}} (there are not *that* many islands int the archipelago) Thanks! Huldra 14:21, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

..I know I really messed up, and now I just got a phone so I have to go out for an hour or two, sorry, Huldra 14:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

It's not a problem, you didn't do anything that's not easy enough to remove. I'll have a finished product to you in about an hour or so, at the most. Just so you know, since most of the villages don't have separate articles (yet), I'll put them in the template, but I won't make them links. I'll make it obvious that if someone wants to read about that village, they can go to the main article that includes it. If they get articles later, or you really feel the section links are necessary, you can add them in fairly easily. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 14:29, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

That is wonderful! Thanks! (I would have spent a week on that..) Just a couple of notes: I have tried to always use Lamu Archipelago ...and not Lamu Islands. This because it is sooo easy to mix up Lamu Island with Lamu Islands; it is not that easy to mix up Lamu Island with Lamu Archipelago. And yes, I know, I know: the Lamu Archipelago-article redirs to Lamu Islands, (hey, I didn´t start *any* of these articles; only tried to clean them up...;-)). Actually, Lamu Islands should probably be mv to Lamu Archipelago. But then you have to delete the present Lamu Archipelago first?

Also: is it possible to get the villages listed in the template in the same sequence as in corresponding article? ..e.g. under Pate Island they are listed as: Faza, Pate Town, Siyu etc.

Also: it is not immediate obvious, but the Rulers of Pate were *not* rulers over all of Pate Island (well, at least not usually); they were only rulers of Pate town. Faza and Siyu had its own dynasties (though less important than Pate town). Is it possible to get it to look so that Rulers of Pate is associated with (only) Pate town, and not the whole of Pate island?

And finally: is it possible to get a smaller version of the map here ot the top of the template? Then one could at one glance see where in Kenya these islands are located. Anyway; you have already done more than I had hoped for! Thanks again! & regards, Huldra 16:52, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

You don't have to delete the redirect, I don't think - you should be able to move the page there as it is. I'll set the title back anyway.

I'll re-arrange the pages as you ask. The code's not really all that complex, it's just a glorified table.

I'll try to add the map below the title. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:25, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

You were right; I could move it --and I have done so. As for "just a glorified table": some of us have never managed to make even a simple table ;-P .....I feel much more at home with, say, Swahili history, than those technical matters..

Anyway: thank you very, very much for your good work: the different articles look soooo much better now (IMHO). Thanks again! Regards, Huldra 19:42, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

You are right; I don´t think we have met before. I just knew I badly needed someone who knew about templates, I found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:User_template_coder, decided I needed (at least!) a category 4 coder ("This user creates and edits templates, with flawless proficiency, and is considered a guru on the subject").. then checked who were listed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:User_template_coder-4; and started with the first on the list: you!...But since your Statusbot showed offline I also went to the next user:Ling.Nut, but s/he was on wikibreak, so then I left a similar message on no. 3 instead (User:Nmajdan), who turned out not to be active just then. See, easy ;-) I am mostly a content-provider on east-African and ME (that is: Palestinian/Israeli) -articles. I cannot help anybody with anything technical, & I am a terrible speller (in any language), but if you ever need to have something translated from Swedish, Norwegian or Danish..then I will gladly be of assistance (I am Scandinavian) ..and I am not too bad in finding books/sources about issues outside mainstream interest (like Lamu...) Again, thank you! (And, hrm, if you are of "normal" college-age, then I am old enough to be your mother ;-)) Regards, Huldra 23:17, 22 August 2007 (UTC) (who is logging out: it is late in my part of the world)

help

ok, well i'm not sure exactly how to send or leave you messages but i hope this works...

you said posting an auto-biography is a bad idea, but if you search for Jeffree Star... what exactly would u classify that as?

--Keith McKenna 02:13, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I would classify that as a fairly neutral biography. I see no obvious evidence in the article history that Jeffree Star has made any significant contributions to that article - if he has, then I would appreciate it if you could point out those edits. I can't find a User:Jeffree Star either. Even if he has, that doesn't change the fact that writing an autobiography is a really bad idea. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

ok, well i read the part where you said I can request a page be written about me..??

well who would want to write about me, i'm not famous or anything... so how would that work?

--Keith McKenna 02:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Take a look at our notability standards for people real quick and let me know if you think you meet any of them. Note that I only get one immediately useful hit for your name on Google, so things aren't looking too hopeful. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Hahaha, nope... I don't meet any of those standards...

to be quite honest with you what i'm trying to do is the whole "do-it-yourself" get famous (off the internet) type thing...

not sure if you know or not but SOOOO many people have been becoming famous by doing it themselves with either the help of youtube, or myspace... I have a myspace... but i've been slaving over trying to become at least "KNOWN" using something (anything!) =]

it's hard... and i'm still baffled at how others are doing it... so, that's the reason i wanted to make a auto-biography about myself.

any suggestions??

--Keith McKenna 02:41, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

As a quick note, please stop adding new sections. It's a lot easier to keep things grouped together. Thanks.

My suggestion would be to leave Wikipedia WAY out of your bid to become famous. We have a policy page titled "What Wikipedia is not", and it includes headings such as...

• Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought
• Wikipedia is not a soapbox
• Wikipedia is not a blog, webspace provider, social networking, or memorial site
• Wikipedia is not a crystal ball

We're definitely NOT the place for a "get famous quick" scheme, and attempting to do so here is a very good way to get yourself blocked. You're welcome to make helpful contributions to the project, but please don't use Wikipedia for your own personal promotion. It's a really bad idea. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for your help in correcting my signature!--Rise Above The Vile 02:32, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

No problem, glad to help. Let me know if you ever have any other problems. :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Anti-Croatian

Oh, so when I create Croatdom it's deleted, but when I delete Croatization you attack me? Do yu height me just because Im Croat. Is IT SO MUCH HARD to yu that I am of croat ethnicity? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by UstashkiDom (talk • contribs) 19:43, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

I don't recall attacking anyone, I just left a note asking you to not blank pages. If you'd like to have a page deleted in accordance with our deletion policies, you're more than welcome to do so. Unfortunately, blanking a page as you did can cause confusion and doesn't actually delete anything. I assure you, I'm not being anti-Croatian. I have no way of knowing who you are, and much less what ethnicity you are, without you telling me. I apologize if any of my actions have seemed rude, but I assure you that was not my intention.

To avoid similar misunderstandings in the future, I would suggest you take a look at some of our policies and guidelines, the most relevant of which I've included below. Besides helping allieviate some confusion, they may help you become a better editor - I know I frequently refer to them myself, and I've been here the larger part of a year. If you've got the time, just scan through and see what it says. If you've still got questions about anything, please feel free to leave another - polite - message on my talk page. Happy editing. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

• Civility
• Deletion policy
• Introduction

About User:212.50.168.9

By the way how you notify Mr. 212 to the administrators. Did you e-mail the school staff and school administrators to watch his contributions. I thought you are the administrators. You also tell him not to write insults on his talk page. I didn't see him write any insults on talk pages, but I saw him wrote alot of insults on article pages. I saw him write sorry but I don't think he is really sorry. He just insist on vandalising and do not take Wikipedia as a serious effect. Who is watching that IP? The school staff? Freewayguy789194 (Any questions? - My updates 20:44, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I didn't contact anyone at the school, we generally report vandals to the Wikipedia administrators at WP:AIV. I'm not sure if anyone in particular is watching the IP, but there's a large group or editors that patrols the rencent changes page to watch for vandals, and I assume that's where I noticed the IP vandalizing - I'm not sure, it was several months ago. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Help Me - Protected Templates

{{helpme}} Is there an administrator out there who can (a) answer my questions and (b) act upon my questions? Please advise. Thanks. See this page: Template:Age … it has a "high-risk template protection" banner at the top. See this page: Template:Age in years and days … it does not have a "high-risk template protection" banner at the top. Why is that? Is there some valid distinction between these two pages / templates, such that one carries the banner and one does not? If so, what is the distinction? If not, can an administrator either (a) remove the banner from the first template; or (b) add the banner to the second template (whichever is more appropriate)? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro 20:07, 21 August 2007 (UTC))

Both templates are protcted from editing due to high levels of vandalism on them, the reason one has a banner and one doesn't is just down to each administrators preferences, some use them, some don't. I will raise it with an admin to see if one can be added to the second template. Andy^reply 20:12, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure why the second template doesn't have it. I've put up a request for an administrator to add the protection template. In the future, you can do this by adding {{editprotected}} to the protected page's talk page and explaining what needs to be done. Happy editing! Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:11, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Most likely, the second doesn't have it because while {{age}} is on over 20,000 pages (I stopped counting), {{age in years and days}} is on less than 500 -- it's just not considered "high-use" in order to apply at Wikipedia:High-risk templates. — Lomn 20:13, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Oops, I see where I missed the point -- both are protected and only one has the banner. Yeah, no deep conspiracy behind that or anything. Given that the template is being tweaked after being protected, is not widely used, and has not been the target of vandalism, I'm not sure why it ought to be protected at present. — Lomn 20:18, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks to your help, this issue has been resolved. Much appreciated -- thank you. (Joseph A. Spadaro 00:27, 24 August 2007 (UTC))

For clarification, the above was copied from User Talk:Joseph A. Spadaro

No problem, always glad to help. :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:28, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

My RFA

Cheers, JetLover ^(talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Thanks for your comments at my RFA! Democracy sure is great, even when you lose. I'll try to use your comments to shape my character and become a better admin, thanks! Cheers, JetLover ^(talk) 02:17, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

You're quite welcome. Sorry things didn't work out, but let me know if you decide to run again. It won't be canvassing since I'm 1) requesting it and 2) not promising to ote in any particular manner ;-). Happy editing. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:33, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

StatusBot

Not sure, let me check. If it isn't working, i'll have to check the logs soon, but I don't have access till monday :( Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 06:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		For some reason I keep running accross you on histories and talk pages - Pheonix15 (talk) 20:44, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Always great to get a star. See you around the wiki. :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

RE: User talk:201.68.28.196

I removed a paragraph from Anna_Politkovskaya_assassination because it was a duplicate, it might not have been trivial to seen in the diffs, but the whole paragraph was duplicated a couple of paragraphs above.

201.68.28.196 who is sometimes logged in as User:Johan Dahlin

Ah, sorry about that. Usually when an IP removes text without an edit summary, it's a mistake or vandalism. I've gone back in and re-removed the paragraph. Thanks for letting me know. (copied to User Talk:201.68.28.196 and User Talk:Johan Dahlin) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 15:55, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Your (Hersfold) RFA

Yep, I sent you an email at 00:34 (UTC) asking you whether you were interested in having another go where I said "I would be more than happy to nominate you". Either way, good luck. :-) -- KTC 02:52, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm back!

You may have noticed that I've been a bit quiet. Sorry about that. My place of employment randomly decided to change my work schedule. Everything is lumped at the end of the week now and I've been really tired.

However, after installing some fresh new-to-me Firefox addons, I'm ready to rock again. See adopt page for info. --Audacitor^{(t$\bullet$c)} 04:33, 29 August 2007 (UTC)