User talk:Bobtoo

Notability of Bahram Elahi

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For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. 172.135.109.28 12:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Takashi Oyama

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Please also provide Oyama's name in kanji, and fuller and correct details for the reference materials that you cite. Thank you. -- Hoary 13:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello Bobtoo! You say The Oyama photographer and his photographs have been published many times and well documented. You obviously can't read Japanese or I would not have to explain to you who he is. As it happens, I can read Japanese. I don't claim that I can read Japanese so well, but I think I can do so well enough for this purpose. (If my Japanese fails me, I'll ask my chums at WikiProject Japan.) Now, none of us can look up Oyama in Japanese in (for example) Google without knowing the kanji for his full name (there are too many imaginable options), which is why I asked you on 17 September. You didn't respond. However, I did look up any photographer named おおやま or (very much less likely) おやま in Nihon no shashinka (日本の写真家) / Biographic Dictionary of Japanese Photography (Tokyo: Nichigai Associates, 2005; ISBN 4-8169-1948-1): there's no mention of any Oyama there. This in itself is not damning; the editors of that book may have overlooked him. So come on, please take one of these options:

• Tell me his name in Japanese script.
• Clearly specify credible sources. (The information you gave in the article is worthless.)
• Admit that he's fictional.

Hoary 08:25, 23 September 2007 (UTC)