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Happens more or less as does timeline 2, except Nathan, due to the actions of Hiro after he returned from Timeline 2, flies Peter miles into the sky before he explodes. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/80.176.233.50|80.176.233.50]] ([[User talk:80.176.233.50|talk]]) 23:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Happens more or less as does timeline 2, except Nathan, due to the actions of Hiro after he returned from Timeline 2, flies Peter miles into the sky before he explodes. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/80.176.233.50|80.176.233.50]] ([[User talk:80.176.233.50|talk]]) 23:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:That seems likely, but I don't think we have proof that the belief that it was Sylar in the original timeline was correct. He had enough control not to do it accidentally and it seems out of character to do it deliberately. We do know the timing of the explosion changed, and that in the original, Nikki wasn't present, but I don't think we can conclude anything from that [[Special:Contributions/68.43.199.150|68.43.199.150]] ([[User talk:68.43.199.150|talk]]) |
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Please stop removing Cryokinesis
Yes, it may be that we don't know when he killed someone or even whom he killed but he did, indeed, kill someone for the power and it should be in the list of murders. The list is not supposed to be chronological and even if it was we can know that whomever it was was killed before Mr. Walker and after Brian Davis. I think the need for the list to remain complete outweighs the need for it to be presented in chronological order. Padillah 17:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- It currently lists "The Hard Part" as the episode for the power. However, that's just an example of when he uses his power. He doesn't acquire it in any of the episodes or graphic novels (so far).Ophois 19:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- Quoting the intro to the list: "People whose deaths have been linked to Sylar and their powers (if any) are listed in chronological order below."
- Cryokinesis likely came from one of those people behind the frozen dead guy. To list it later and out of order is inaccurate. The power is listed in the powers/abilities section, where it should remain so long as no source for the power is given. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 19:53, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- Then I think the list of powers and the list of murders are redundant. He can't get his power without murdering the person, and other killings are superfluous (killing a guy as he flipped over Ted's van isn't very plot significant). Besides the Powers and Abilities section mentions powers he's acquired scattered throughout prose, while the list of murders is much more accessible as a list of facts. I would imagine his powers are going to be looked up more than the people he killed and I see no reason why the two lists must be regarded as mutually exclusive. What info do we have that proves Chandra was killed after David but before the "Unnamed victim from Barstow"? With that in mind I see no reason to separate the lists or impose "fake" restrictions. Or take powers out of the "Murders" table and leave them to be explained in the Powers and Abilities prose. Listing some of them in both places, and leaving others out, is misleading (it misled me and I'm a contributing editor). Padillah 15:08, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Surviving Maya
Sylar didn't demonstrate any better ability to resist Maya's disease than any other person. The police and her friend have all survived, after much longer and greater exposure, after being "saved" by Alejandro. Alejandro can't resucitate people, only keep them from dying in the first place. If they die he's useless. In an interview with the writers at http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12002 it says as much. In any case Sylar is not exceptional for having survived, others have survived much worse. Padillah 17:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
What is this alluding to?
in abilities or w/e that section is. it's a little confusing as to what this means at the end of it
"among those displayed are Candice Wilmer's power of illusion, Nathan Petrelli's flight, Claire Bennet's regeneration (which he failed to obtain originally, but acquired during the episode), and D.L. Hawkins' power of phasing."
someone should clarify this in the article please 68.185.197.67 05:01, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- It looks like someone is trying to mention the future episodes as much as possible. This is a "powers recap" of the future episodes and what powers Sylar acquired in both alternate futures. I don't know how much more we can support the future episodes seeing as how they've been conclusively show to have been successfully avoided. Mention in passing should be fine, we don't need to keep track of what powers he might have had in two alternate futures that will never come to pass. That's a little much. Padillah 13:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Sylars inability to use powers.
Just wondering everyones opinion on this but if Sylar couldn't use his powers before killing Candice Wilmar and then still couldn't use his abilities after, wouldn't that mean her ability was wasted? This all depends of course if him taking powers is a power itself, I mean it would have to be wouldn't it? if I killed someone and ate their brain i'm not going to gain their knowledge etc. So basically what I'm saying is if his power to take powers was not working wouldn't it mean he wouldn't have Candice's powers even if he was able to regain his preexisting ones? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.124.139.205 (talk) 05:17, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- We don't really know what's wrong with his powers yet, or how his power-absorbing method works. It's possible he does still have all his powers including Candice's, he just can't get them to work right now. Wanderer32 17:07, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I think it's more likely that he has the Virus, thus stopping his powers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.176.233.50 (talk) 01:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Her head wasn't opened either. Therequiembellishere 23:40, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, first off, I think Sylar is at least smart enough to know when he's successfully eaten someone's brain. He's stolen enough powers that I think he wouldn't forget how. If he tried and failed there's something wrong, not just that he forgot to open her head. The fact that he's less than affected with anything resembling the symptoms of the virus would suggest that he doesn't have the virus. He's not ill, he's not bed-ridden, nothing. So, as much as I know we hate saying this, we're going to have to wait and see what happened. We are in no hurry, we have no need to scoop anyone. Padillah (talk) 13:44, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Minuteman Link
I added a Minuteman link to give background information on the "civilian border patrolmen" Sylar convinces Maya to kill and it was referred to as "an attempt to add link support to the Minuteman project." Are we not allowed to add links which will give background information on the show's elements if someone disagrees with them? I certainly dislike the Minutemen and view them as racist and repugnant, but thought that the link would add greater understanding to viewers who are unfamiliar with the border situation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.108.208.123 (talk) 23:27, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
sylars artwork
should we have a section on sylars artwork? i know there isnt much but is it notable enough for inclusion? i am just asking of course. he only did four
- one of president in oval office
- sylar seeing ted at kirby plaza
- using his moms blood to make new york after explosion
- his confrontation with peter in kirby plaza
what does everyone think?--Chrisisinchrist 18:58, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Powers and Death???
How did he survive getting impailed by Hiro? And how did he loose his powers?? 67.72.98.120 (talk) 04:17, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- The Company helped Sylar recover. The wound rendered him unable to use his powers, though. This is covered in the article. Josh (talk | contribs) 04:36, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Sylar as exploding man
Is there anything that suggests that Hiro was right believing Sylar was the original exploding man? Did Peter saving Claire create a timeline in which he exploded or was it always him? The article states that the timeline was changed (68.43.199.150 (talk)) —Preceding comment was added at 17:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
it's a little confusing with all the time traveling going on to understand what was going on. In "Five Years Gone", everyone believes that Sylar was the "Bomb", however, it is revealed that it was in fact Peter. But which version of the timeline are we going to analyse, I personally see 3 timelines.
1. Unaltered Timeline. (Hypothetical) Sylar kills Claire at the school in texas, gains cellular regeneration, thus immediately recovers from Hiro's attack, explodes, bye bye Manhatten.
2. Altered Time Line (Portrayed in "5 years gone") Sylar fails to kill Claire at school in Texas due to the intervention of "Future" Hiro from TimeLine 1, thus is almost mortally wounded by Hiro which disrupts his powers and so he doesn't explode, but Peter explodes instead due to the stress of the incident. When Hiro from timeline 1 travelled back 5 years to give Peter the message to "Save The Cheerleader" which ultimately resulted in Sylar failing to get Claire, he changed history, so when he travelled back to the present, he re-appeared in THIS time line, instead of the one he left (1), this is why he is unaware that Claire is still alive in "5 years gone" and asks himself and Ando if they did save her.
3. Re-altered Time Line (Portrayed in the show now) Happens more or less as does timeline 2, except Nathan, due to the actions of Hiro after he returned from Timeline 2, flies Peter miles into the sky before he explodes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.176.233.50 (talk) 23:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
- That seems likely, but I don't think we have proof that the belief that it was Sylar in the original timeline was correct. He had enough control not to do it accidentally and it seems out of character to do it deliberately. We do know the timing of the explosion changed, and that in the original, Nikki wasn't present, but I don't think we can conclude anything from that 68.43.199.150 (talk)