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Can you explain '''why''' they are a '''suitable''' (related to the article '''and''' showing its the source of that particular thing and not something else) and '''reliable''' (from internationally respected media or non-partisan organisations)? You just say that they are; please say why in detail. Your comments in this article or others ([[Talk:ETA#Definition]]) show that you do nothing but defend your own personal ideas. [[User:Escorial82|Escorial82]] ([[User talk:Escorial82|talk]]) 09:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Can you explain '''why''' they are a '''suitable''' (related to the article '''and''' showing its the source of that particular thing and not something else) and '''reliable''' (from internationally respected media or non-partisan organisations)? You just say that they are; please say why in detail. Your comments in this article or others ([[Talk:ETA#Definition]]) show that you do nothing but defend your own personal ideas. [[User:Escorial82|Escorial82]] ([[User talk:Escorial82|talk]]) 09:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:Being from a non-partisan source does not make it an unreliable source - you read [[WP:RS]] and you know this. Prove it is not reliable.--[[User:La voz de su amo|La voz de su amo]] ([[User talk:La voz de su amo|talk]]) 12:51, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:Being from a non-partisan source does not make it an unreliable source - you read [[WP:RS]] and you know this. Prove it is not reliable.--[[User:La voz de su amo|La voz de su amo]] ([[User talk:La voz de su amo|talk]]) 12:51, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:One more thing - Segi is mention in the [http://www.rte.ie/news/elections2007/youthparties.html Youth Parties Guide] link.--[[User:La voz de su amo|La voz de su amo]] ([[User talk:La voz de su amo|talk]]) 13:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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I removed several links (4) that had been recently placed as references but are not correct either because they are not references or do not stand Wikipedia's criteria because they are not reliable and/or have restrictions Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/examples#Use_of_electronic_or_online_sources & WP:EL#Restrictions_on_linking.

I'll describe case by case:

  • "Terrorist": Flag of Convenience? This page is only indirectly related to the topic of the article, and is of a "partisan group" (in Socialist Lawyer)
  • State repression of the Basque movement Same as before (indirectly related), and its from an anarchist group (i.e. with not neutral)
  • Freedom For SEGI This is not an independent source for the petition, but the petition itself with an online option for supporting it (i.e. for people to join). It doesn't say who made the petition, as anyone can put anything on that website.
  • Youth Parties Guide Segi is not mentioned in that page as a member of the group

I therefore strongly see that they should be removed. Escorial82 (talk) 22:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They are the reliable source.--La voz de su amo (talk) 15:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Give me reasons for it, as I said they don't respect Wikipedia's criteria. Read them and explain in detail (as I did for their removal) why each one is suitable (that they are directly related to the article and not from partisan organisations of ANY ideology; I made a couple of clarifications in my previous comment). And don't remove the explanation (title) of two sources previously added, there's absolutely no reason for it. This is Wikipedia not a debate forum, and it has rules we all have to respect. Escorial82 (talk) 18:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Forgot to add: One of those links (petitiononline.com) had been already removed in the past by an administrator. Please don't make me contact him. Escorial82 (talk) 19:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You are wrong on all accounts. You are the POV. You are not a reliable source. These are.--La voz de su amo (talk) 10:37, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Can you explain why they are a suitable (related to the article and showing its the source of that particular thing and not something else) and reliable (from internationally respected media or non-partisan organisations)? You just say that they are; please say why in detail. Your comments in this article or others (Talk:ETA#Definition) show that you do nothing but defend your own personal ideas. Escorial82 (talk) 09:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Being from a non-partisan source does not make it an unreliable source - you read WP:RS and you know this. Prove it is not reliable.--La voz de su amo (talk) 12:51, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
One more thing - Segi is mention in the Youth Parties Guide link.--La voz de su amo (talk) 13:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]