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I created the page of [[Nial Djuliarso]]. Although he is not notable in the US, he is a notable jazz musician in Indonesia, because he's a child prodigy of jazz and has created a number of recordings which won awards in Indonesia. Deletion of his article is regretted. Again, I am really sad that Wikipedia uses American standard for notability, while ignoring people from developing countries. We can see categories such as Indonesian Journalist, Indonesian Musician, and Nial Djuliarso is one of them. (Sorry for the late comment regarding this matter because I was away to give birth of my son) [[User:Chaerani|Chaerani]] ([[User talk:Chaerani|talk]]) 04:14, 10 January 2008 (UTC) |
I created the page of [[Nial Djuliarso]]. Although he is not notable in the US, he is a notable jazz musician in Indonesia, because he's a child prodigy of jazz and has created a number of recordings which won awards in Indonesia. Deletion of his article is regretted. Again, I am really sad that Wikipedia uses American standard for notability, while ignoring people from developing countries. We can see categories such as Indonesian Journalist, Indonesian Musician, and Nial Djuliarso is one of them. (Sorry for the late comment regarding this matter because I was away to give birth of my son) [[User:Chaerani|Chaerani]] ([[User talk:Chaerani|talk]]) 04:14, 10 January 2008 (UTC) |
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:You wrote: ''Odd, I haven't deleted this article (nor have I considered deleting it). Someone put a {{PROD}} tag on it, and for some reason it went to DRV without being deleted. It's not at AFD, either. --Coredesat 11:33, 10 January 2008 (UTC)'' |
:You wrote: ''Odd, I haven't deleted this article (nor have I considered deleting it). Someone put a <nowiki>{{PROD}}</nowiki> tag on it, and for some reason it went to DRV without being deleted. It's not at AFD, either. --Coredesat 11:33, 10 January 2008 (UTC)'' |
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::My reply: When I checked it about 48 hours ago, it was deleted by you in September 2007. I contested it and request the article to be restored and it has been done. Thanks [[User:Chaerani|Chaerani]] ([[User talk:Chaerani|talk]]) 00:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC) |
::My reply: When I checked it about 48 hours ago, it was deleted by you in September 2007. I contested it and request the article to be restored and it has been done. Thanks [[User:Chaerani|Chaerani]] ([[User talk:Chaerani|talk]]) 00:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC) |
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Re: Strawberry Flower
Eh, I got to look more carefully next time, but I've restored the page and its fine now. Thanks for catching that.Mitch32contribs 14:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Matt Sanchez
I've been trying to keep tabs on the problems associated with this user and article for some time. The indefblock seems disproportionate. There seem for some reason to be many separate ANI threads on the subjects. Could you catch me up on how this situation has escalated so fast from my recent 48 hour block? WjBscribe 00:16, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Given the ridiculous provocation caused by the addition of this section [1] to his biography and edit warring over said content, I propose do reduce Matt Sanchez's block to one week. Do you object? WjBscribe 02:02, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Would you mind raising this on ANI instead of here, and hashing it out in a wider forum? I brought up the topic there myself after I saw all the homophobic comments he had been peppering for months, such as the ones detailed on the RFC. I asked for the indef block due to that ongoing incivility. I agree he may have been partially baited, or at least provoked in some sense, but attacking people that are gay, or insisting gays not edit his article, is unacceptable. Lawrence Cohen 02:05, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Which ANI thread should I raise this at? For some reason there are many.... Or should I start yet another one? WjBscribe 02:09, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Probably here, at this one. That's where I asked for the ban. Three of us all started threads in rapid succession, made a bit of a mess... Lawrence Cohen 02:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- So it would seem to someone trying to make sense of it all afterwards... WjBscribe 02:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Probably here, at this one. That's where I asked for the ban. Three of us all started threads in rapid succession, made a bit of a mess... Lawrence Cohen 02:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Which ANI thread should I raise this at? For some reason there are many.... Or should I start yet another one? WjBscribe 02:09, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Would you mind raising this on ANI instead of here, and hashing it out in a wider forum? I brought up the topic there myself after I saw all the homophobic comments he had been peppering for months, such as the ones detailed on the RFC. I asked for the indef block due to that ongoing incivility. I agree he may have been partially baited, or at least provoked in some sense, but attacking people that are gay, or insisting gays not edit his article, is unacceptable. Lawrence Cohen 02:05, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
In reply to your comment on my talkpage, I think Matt Sanchez's recent flare up was inspired by the most recent use of his article to attack him. In particular, the addition of very weakly sourced material suggesting that he had been a male prostitute, which is a serious accusation is regard to a serving member of the US armed forces. His conduct was not acceptable and I agree should be sanctioned. But I do not think an indefblock is right. His "legal threat" seems a knee jerk reaction to obviously distressing material being added to his biography rather than a real threat to pursue legal action. I really think the block should be shortened, or the matter refered to ArbCom. WjBscribe 02:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- I agree that Matt's conduct has been appalling. DurovaCharge! 07:32, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- I commented on the RFAR. --Coredesat 07:34, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Bluemarine/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Bluemarine/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, John Vandenberg (talk) 22:10, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Can you tell me what happened with Zirnevis? There was an AfD with the result of delete, which you closed, but it appears it was never deleted, somewhere along the line the AfD tag got removed, then last week, a user put a speedy deletion tag on it which I reverted and added a "move to wiktionary" template on it. It's now been moved to Wiktionary, so I was going to put it up for afd but saw that it's already gone through that process, so I've just put a db-repost tag on it, but it isn't really a repost, it just seems like it never got deleted. Corvus cornixtalk 00:43, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Great, thanks. Corvus cornixtalk 03:25, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I would like to protest the deletion of this page. I was unable to take part in the original discussion, which ended with a reasonably secure consensus for deletion, but pursuit of "official channels" in reopening it seems to throw the buck initially to you. My ire has principally been raised by the philistine nature of many of the arguments for deletion. IrishGuy even suggested that the fact they were never on a major label asuggested non-notability, which is completely absurd - Infest were a hardcore punk band, which is a genre where the vast majority of influential and (yes) notable bands are never within reach of major labels. Application of this "rule" would result in speedy deletion of Minor Threat, Gorilla Biscuits, Dead Kennedys and almost every other band of any worth in the style.
Infest's specific qualities were a key influence on an entire subgenre which has been deemed "notable", namely power violence, and they have had numerous records out on that style's most "major" (and also "notable") record label, Slap-a-Ham Records, whose discography is peppered with equivalently niche-interest-but-influential (and "notable") extreme metal and punk acts such as Burning Witch, Melvins and Man Is The Bastard. To have a page for Spazz and not for the band from whom Spazz most frequently cribbed is a nonsense. Commander deathguts (talk) 02:14, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I created the page of Nial Djuliarso. Although he is not notable in the US, he is a notable jazz musician in Indonesia, because he's a child prodigy of jazz and has created a number of recordings which won awards in Indonesia. Deletion of his article is regretted. Again, I am really sad that Wikipedia uses American standard for notability, while ignoring people from developing countries. We can see categories such as Indonesian Journalist, Indonesian Musician, and Nial Djuliarso is one of them. (Sorry for the late comment regarding this matter because I was away to give birth of my son) Chaerani (talk) 04:14, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- You wrote: Odd, I haven't deleted this article (nor have I considered deleting it). Someone put a {{PROD}} tag on it, and for some reason it went to DRV without being deleted. It's not at AFD, either. --Coredesat 11:33, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- My reply: When I checked it about 48 hours ago, it was deleted by you in September 2007. I contested it and request the article to be restored and it has been done. Thanks Chaerani (talk) 00:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)