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==Among and Between==
==Among and Between==
In spite of the fact that the popular theory that things happen only ''between'' two entities and ''among'' more than two, having been demolished by many leading grammarians, some writers still attempt to follw this specious rule even when the resulting meaning becomes absurd.
In spite of the fact that the popular theory that things happen only ''between'' two entities and ''among'' more than two, having been demolished by many leading grammarians, some writers still attempt to follw this specious rule even when the resulting meaning becomes absurd.
In any group, at any time, any connection is between two of those members of the group at any one point in the group. In other words, if I am in the middle of a group, there is a cocnection betwen me and you, and you, and you, and you and you. Get it? Any connection is always ''between'' members of the group. The dynamics are quite different from, e.g., sharing something among a group of people. [[User:Mike hayes|Mike Hayes]] 17:13, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
In any group, at any time, any connection is between two of those members of the group at any one point in the group. In other words, if I am in the middle of a group, there is a cocnection betwen me and you, and you, and you, and you and you. Get it? Any connection is always ''between'' members of the group. The dynamics are quite different from, e.g., sharing something among a group of people. [[User:Mike hayes|Mike Hayes]]
17:13, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


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[[History of the Kurdish people]] goes into a lot of detail about the origins of the Kurds, and makes some contradictory claims. The historical content of this article needs to be reconciled with that more detailed history. I think the genetic studies are an excellent complement to that history, and could have a place in the same article, so I'm suggesting a merge. The main history article is probably going to be long enough that it will need to be split up, but I think the first chunk should probably cover the entire ancient span, not just the "origins" period, which is poorly defined, anyway. Using [[Wikipedia:Summary style]], the main history article should contain summaries of subarticles which cover specific periods. Right now, things are a bit reversed, as this subarticle has less detail than the main article. Given the lack of references and the messy overlapping of claims we have now, I think the easiest thing to do would be to come up with a single, unified story, and then chunk it out and leave behind summaries. (There is also going to be material coming in from [[Kurdish people]], which also needs a brief history where there is too much detail.) -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] ([[User talk:Beland|talk]]) 04:57, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
[[History of the Kurdish people]] goes into a lot of detail about the origins of the Kurds, and makes some contradictory claims. The historical content of this article needs to be reconciled with that more detailed history. I think the genetic studies are an excellent complement to that history, and could have a place in the same article, so I'm suggesting a merge. The main history article is probably going to be long enough that it will need to be split up, but I think the first chunk should probably cover the entire ancient span, not just the "origins" period, which is poorly defined, anyway. Using [[Wikipedia:Summary style]], the main history article should contain summaries of subarticles which cover specific periods. Right now, things are a bit reversed, as this subarticle has less detail than the main article. Given the lack of references and the messy overlapping of claims we have now, I think the easiest thing to do would be to come up with a single, unified story, and then chunk it out and leave behind summaries. (There is also going to be material coming in from [[Kurdish people]], which also needs a brief history where there is too much detail.) -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] ([[User talk:Beland|talk]]) 04:57, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


== Indo-European migration ==
This section should be removed,
it's just a theory that is supporting that the indo-europeans migrated from Central Asia. There are many other theories of an indo-european origin, many of them even claims Kurdistan to be the origin for the indo-europeans, so how could they migrate TO it? Although, the indo-europeans started to show up in these places a bit later than others (perhaps they learned how to write....?)

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Old talk page: Talk:Origins of the Kurds/Genetic origins of the Kurds

This article has been a bother since its creation as far as categorization is concerned. Article is clearly about "Kurdish people" and not about genetic studies in general even though it had been categorised as such.

Both articles focus on the origins of the Kurds so having a single article on that particular topic makes sense.

-- Cat chi? 14:18, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I merged the info from the other article into this one. Both articles talk about the same thing, the origin of the Kurds, therefore, the genetic testing should just be included here. Makes sense. I merged the articles,Hajji Piruz 21:33, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Among and Between

In spite of the fact that the popular theory that things happen only between two entities and among more than two, having been demolished by many leading grammarians, some writers still attempt to follw this specious rule even when the resulting meaning becomes absurd. In any group, at any time, any connection is between two of those members of the group at any one point in the group. In other words, if I am in the middle of a group, there is a cocnection betwen me and you, and you, and you, and you and you. Get it? Any connection is always between members of the group. The dynamics are quite different from, e.g., sharing something among a group of people. Mike Hayes 17:13, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Linking

Wikipedia convention is that links should occur on the first occurrence of a word only. Mike Hayes 17:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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That sounds more thrutfully (Mike Hayes). // —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.253.41.41 (talk) 17:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalisim removal

I remove and undo page in last 3 edits. Just one stupid person write about prasing one group of people HaNcI (talk) 21:01, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kurds are close to Jews

Kurds are close to jews but they are not self jews and also not iranians —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.68.219.132 (talk) 22:52, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

History of the Kurdish people goes into a lot of detail about the origins of the Kurds, and makes some contradictory claims. The historical content of this article needs to be reconciled with that more detailed history. I think the genetic studies are an excellent complement to that history, and could have a place in the same article, so I'm suggesting a merge. The main history article is probably going to be long enough that it will need to be split up, but I think the first chunk should probably cover the entire ancient span, not just the "origins" period, which is poorly defined, anyway. Using Wikipedia:Summary style, the main history article should contain summaries of subarticles which cover specific periods. Right now, things are a bit reversed, as this subarticle has less detail than the main article. Given the lack of references and the messy overlapping of claims we have now, I think the easiest thing to do would be to come up with a single, unified story, and then chunk it out and leave behind summaries. (There is also going to be material coming in from Kurdish people, which also needs a brief history where there is too much detail.) -- Beland (talk) 04:57, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Indo-European migration

This section should be removed, it's just a theory that is supporting that the indo-europeans migrated from Central Asia. There are many other theories of an indo-european origin, many of them even claims Kurdistan to be the origin for the indo-europeans, so how could they migrate TO it? Although, the indo-europeans started to show up in these places a bit later than others (perhaps they learned how to write....?)