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Regarding delete vote of Lobstergotchi and Lobsters & Horses Inc.

Goodday Soltak. I'd like to discuss your vote on deletion of Lobstergotchi and Lobsters & Horses Inc.

"Delete. This could be a hoax or just an awful idea for a game. In any event, this article shouldn't be written until the game has been published and established."

Please revalute the idea of this being a hoax. If you go and check Lobstergotchi and Lobsters & Horses Inc. now you can see the changes I've done that clearly shows it's not a hoax. I've also written a few words in discussion part. Please take a look at it an revalute your vote.

One thing that I don't understand thought is why "an awful idea for a game" would prevent it from being an article on Wikipedia. That is just your opinion of the game/game idea, people have different taste y'know.

and regarding the "this article shouldn't be written until the game has been published and established." part, I indeed think it should, atleast now when I've added the Future game-tag ("This article or section contains information about a computer or video game(s) in production."), which clearly shows it's a game under development. Please revalute your vote :)

Thank you in advance.

Note: This is in no way meant to offend you. If you get offended by what I just wrote in any way, don't. It's not the way I meant it. --Yadonashi 02:29, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

• I'm not offended, but thank you for making it clear that that wasn't your intention. :-)

I'm convinced that this isn't a hoax, however, I won't be changing my vote to delete. There are a number of criteria for deletion, manufactured information being only one of them. This game is not well established, is being made by a company (or team) that it not well established and falls squarely under the heading of "non-notable." This article may well have merit in the future, however, it should not be written until such a time as the game and/or company has been well established and a fair number of players are in existence -Soltak 16:43, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Speedy taggings

These articles were not candidates for speedy deletion.

• Orangeade
• Miami Blues

To be a wikipedia editor rather than just a mindless tagging machine, you have to edit such articles and expand them. It's a wiki. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 22:03, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

• The articles were devoid of real content, a criterion for speedy deletion. They were also created by Maoririder so I was hardly convinced of any impending expansion. And, really, how much could one expand Orangeade? -Soltak 22:15, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Are you serious? This is an encyclopedia! History of the beverage, first known recipes, cultural aspects, pointers to recipes (Wikibooks?) Variants (Orangina, etc). Neither article qualified for speedy deletion; if you believe that you need to re-read the CSDs again, more carefully. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 22:30, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

• I would direct your attention to the very first criterion for speedy deletion which reads in part "No meaningful content or history." Both of these articles had no meaningful content when created by Maoririder. Orangeade simply stated that it was an Orange flavored drink in the same vein as Lemon and Limeade. Miami Blues just said that it was a movie with Alec Baldwin. I've since updated that one a bit myself, however. -Soltak 22:35, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
  • I would also point out that a motion was recently made to move Orangeade to Wikionary. -Soltak 22:37, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
• I'm well aware of CSD A1 and I have no idea how you could apply it to an article which succinctly and accurately describes a soft drink, or one that describes a movie in terms of its principal star. Have you actually read it all the way through? "No meaningful content or history, text completely meaningless or unsalvageably incoherent (e.g., random characters). See patent nonsense." Completely meaningless, unsalvageably incoherent, random characters, patent nonsense.
• I recommend also that you give a very, very close reading to Wikipedia:Patent nonsense.
• If someone thinks it belongs on wiktionary, that's still not excuse for speedy deletion. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 09:31, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Portland High School

This was a valid speedy, mate. Oh, and so was Orangeade. Keep up the good work,
brenneman^(t)(c) 11:05, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks for the support on my speedies. It's nice to know that not everybody around here subscribes to that inclusionism "Wikipedia isn't paper so let's add everything" garbage. -Soltak 16:32, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!

Heya there! Thanks for your email, it's not often I get them on here! ;-) This little worm RainbowWarrior seems to be a nasty piece of work, a jumped-up little twerp who thinks he's a god. Well, I suppose you come across them sooner or later! Maybe we could petition to have him deleted. Anyways, thanks again for geting in touch! Whereabouts you from? Rusty2005 16:28, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

• If he keeps up this behavior there's several things we can do. Read over WP:DR for more information on that. In any event, I'll be keeping a close eye on Rainbowwarrior. And, to answer your question, I'm from Ohio, US. -Soltak 16:36, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Cheers, I'll be keeping an eye on him as well. Maybe we should contact Administrator Linusbeak, he seems to have encountered difficulties with RainbowWarrior before. Hopefully he'll give it up and let us get on with something useful  :-) Rusty2005 16:47, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

• Reviewing his contribs it appears that he's already managed to piss off at least two individual admins. Given that, I think we might as well just leave it to him to be his own undoing. I'll continue to keep an eye on him, though. -Soltak 16:56, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Sounds like the best idea! By the way, can I remove the Deletion Request header from the Fatherland articel, or will I need to contact an admin?

• The vote will either have to be closed by an admin or withdrawn by Rainbowwarrior (not likely). Because the vote is overwhelmingly to keep, in a couple of days an admin will close the vote and remove the header. -Soltak 17:03, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Oh, Be-have!

My dear old boy, before you engage in any more virulent attacks on my background I suggest you review the corpus of my substantive contributions to wikipedia, especially those concerning the law. There you shall find that I am no ordinary "fifteen year old Peruvian," as you so dismissively put it, but indeed possess more education and breeding that you ever shall. Furthermore, I posited that query about Prof. Howlett to my friend from Cambridge, not you, and I should expect that in the future you refrain from interfering with my communications.

And furthermore, sir, I am a United States citizen, mind you, not a "Peruvian." To paraphrase Lord Wellington, just because one was born in a stable does not make him a horse...

And to directly quote my other English inspiration, that of Austin Powers, "before I'm on the job, I like to give me undercarriage a bit of a 'how's your father?'"

Yeah Bay-bee!Rainbowwarrior1977 19:12, 7 August 2005 (UTC)