User talk:Tony Sidaway

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My mind's gone completely blank and I cant think what to put in this header.[edit]

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For all your work cutting down the size of the Gamergate controversy article and resolving talk page disputes. Bosstopher (talk) 17:22, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

How very thoughtful! --TS 04:51, 18 January 2015 (UTC)


This is just a notification that the hatting you recently did is here. Not interested in debating it here, not seeking any sanctions against you. Thargor Orlando (talk) 18:41, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

No offence taken. You're doing the right thing by taking it to the enforcement page. Cheers. --TS 20:53, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

As requested[edit]

Stop icon Reminding me how much I miss the writings Iain Banks. Since you asked for a templating.

In all seriousness keep up the good work, you're very much appreciated. — Strongjam (talk) 00:45, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll bear that in mind next time I am tempted by the siren call of the Great Enfolded. --TS 00:51, 21 January 2015 (UTC)


Thanks for tagging me! I was actually just wondering if I should add the template to my own page to indicate good-faith awareness of the contentious circumstances on and sanctions covering the gamergate mess, but I was genuinely not entirely sure if it would "count", or if the template has to be administrator-applied, or something similar. Sappow (talk) 01:38, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

I think self-tagging would have counted, because it's only to establish that the editor is aware of the circumstances that apply to their edits in a certain area.

I tagged one editor whose activities looked suspicious but then noticed that there were a few others who looked new to me (I only recently stopped editing in that topic) so I ended up tagging a few newcomers. --TS 02:01, 30 January 2015 (UTC)


Hi Tony Sidaway, Apologies for the interruption. I thought that this I deliberately stepped back a few months ago to give new editors a chance here was worthy of recognition. I think it's the kind of attitude that Wikipedia could use more of; on all sides of all disputes. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 12:28, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

It's my long established practice. In my view the Gamergate fuss bears certain parallels to the "global warming hoax" nonsense that immediately followed the theft of emails from CRU in East Anglia. So you will not be surprised to hear that I first consciously exercised this disengagement strategy after a brief period of intensive involvement at the article on that topic. Others who failed to disengage didn't have a very happy time, irrespective of their stance on the issues. --TS 18:05, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough[edit]

Wasn't intended as an attack but point taken. freshacconci talk to me 20:13, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

I had intended to smooth things over on your user talk page, but real life intervened. Thanks for taking it so well. --TS 00:02, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Could you review?[edit]

Tony, thanks for writing the Arb Rep. I've copyedited it. Please take a look and revert or otherwise change anything you don't like. Tony (talk) 13:27, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. You've made good changes to improve readability, as well as style fixes. It moves closer to my goal of a readable and fair summary of a very delicate case. --TS 13:59, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

2015 attack on Dallas police has been nominated for Did You Know[edit]

A brief personal note[edit]

Hi, Tony, just wanted to stop by and say that although I have often disagreed with you I very much appreciate the deliberate and measured way you approach your editing. Wikipedia could use more like you. -Starke Hathaway (talk) 00:09, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

A Grand Statement[edit]

"An encyclopaedia is not amoral. It either supports evil through complacency or it embodies an overall force for good by refusing to flinch from the delineation of all, both evil and good. When we flinch and turn a blind eye to violent attempts to subvert our great work, then we face the true test.” -- Tony Sidaway

MarkBernstein (talk) 03:02, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Comment requested[edit]

There is now a concrete proposal on Talk:Autonomous spaceport drone ship re article scope. It is in line with the sentiments of several editors in the (rather confusing) discussion earlier on that same Talk page, but the earlier discussion had both a different proposed change as well as comments that led well beyond discussion of just the scope of this single article.

Would appreciate it if you might consider weighing in, since the first operational use of the new ASDS is in just a few days, on 28 June. Cheers. N2e (talk) 16:02, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. As I have no particularly strong opinions on the matter I'll leave the discussion there. --TS 19:10, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration motion regarding Arbitration enforcement[edit]

By motion, the Arbitration Committee authorises the following injunction effective immediately:
  1. The case is to be opened forthwith and entitled "Arbitration enforcement";
  2. During the case, no user who has commented about this matter on the AN page, the AE page or the Case Requests page, may take or initiate administrative action involving any of the named parties in this case.
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You are receiving this message because you have commented about this matter on the AN page, the AE page or the Case Requests page and are therefore restricted as specified in (2). For the Arbitration Committee, L235 (t / c / ping in reply) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:30, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Casting aspersions[edit]

" "social justice warriors" (a term DHeyward appears to use without irony) ". Your comment is made without citation or diff. I don't hold nor espouse the views you've attributed to me. I do cite sources that are underrepresented. I do comment on sources that I think are being misinterpreted (such as the unsourced lead saying the mass shooting threat is from GamerGate when our own section on the threat says differently as does the detailed sources). I also don't use the term "social justice warrior" in my own voice. I'd appreciate a retraction of the aspersion. --DHeyward (talk) 00:59, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I apologise for my imprecision. You actually used the phrases 'social justice advocates', 'social justice campaigners' and 'social justice revolution' in your own voice, in the course of pushing your synthesis. --TS 01:06, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Please don't try to continue your argument for your point of view here. I've made it clear that I regard such conduct on talk pages as an abuse of the encyclopaedia. Doubly so on user talk. --TS 13:16, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Change from announced time table for the Arbitration enforcement arbitration case[edit]

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Motion passed in AE arbitration case granting amnesty and rescinding previous temporary injunction[edit]

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    1. the original comment made by Eric Corbett on 25 June 2015 and any subsequent related comments made by him up until the enactment of this current motion; and
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Tony, I'm not a regular reader of the Signpost, so I don't know exactly whether it purports to offer news or opinion, but this here will be, I hope, marked with a POV tag, or have Editorial opinion written in a huge font all over it. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 14:53, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

It's news reporting, but probably not the kind of reporting you're used to. It's also highly incomplete. I'll ensure that it's clearly marked as being editorial, if I decide to go ahead with it. --TS 15:02, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I'm used to a lot of things, though, and I wouldn't call this reporting. Drmies (talk) 15:07, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Paroles discussion on AE case[edit]

Can you lay out where you are trying to go with paroles, why and what problem you think they solve? Your summary and focus on the rest of the case was good and then that felt like it came out of nowhere and wasn't entirely clear why. Thanks... Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 03:16, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement is unpopular, and those undertaking it face difficulties even when their judgement is sound. There is also a public perception that some valuable editors are treated harshly. The end result is that arbitration enforcement often causes fresh problems which may occasionally be worse than the problems the remedies were meant to fix. Parole as proposed would allow the arbitration committee to step in and take closer control of the enforcement of certain individual remedies, in the hope of reducing community friction. --TS 16:19, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

How to control global warming listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect How to control global warming. Since you had some involvement with the How to control global warming redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. GZWDer (talk) 15:16, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for 2015 attack on Dallas police[edit]

Gatoclass (talk) 16:51, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Television[edit]

There's an issue at WikiProject Television that I would like your input at. ElectricBurst(Electron firings)(Zaps) 17:49, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

A Question[edit]

Do you want to continue as lead editor of the signpost's arbitration report or move to a backup? Because I did it this week, even though there were two lead editors for it, and I enjoyed it and would like to pick it up as my lead responsibility. Please ping me in response. Thanks Tortle (talk) 19:17, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I seem to have burned out very rapidly. I'm not spending much time on Wikipedia at all lately. --TS 23:51, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Ok well I put you down as a contributor. Thanks Tortle (talk) 00:12, 11 September 2015 (UTC)