Talk:Travian

NPOV

"Also travian is very fun to play, try it!"

Many other lines are written like this, most have been edited or removed to preserve NPOV. Jafet 14:01, 24 August 2006 (UTC) Would the mention of past server winners be pertinent? It sounds incomplete.--MrBlonde 12:25, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually it would be really a fun game if it wasn't for all of those players who had months to build an army and are harassing newbies who had 2 days to do so... – Alensha ^talk 22:54, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Or those Romans who use fire catapults to destroy all of my buildings and resource fields :( Chenhsi (talk) 00:51, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Make Over

I did a major makeover of the page. Listing all the details here would be too time consuming, please view the page to assess them. Major changes include the tools section, more citations, changing Travian from an MMOG to an MMORTS. Let me know if anything stands out. - Zahubu April 25 2007

I added a picture, not the best; may add a new one. I also added a info box on the side, as well added a few things about the new Travian shop, and end game. ** ko2007 ** 04:57, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Revenue links

We need to watch for people posting referral links that earn them in game gold. I have removed two in last few days Jasonfward (talk) 04:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I've just deleted another 4 paid for referral links and I know I'm not alone in deleting them, oh well. Jasonfward (talk) 22:43, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

ko2007, please stop adding referral links. Chenhsi (talk) 16:54, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Someone else has been adding "Register to play now" links with theirs in them...

I simply reverted back to an older copy and saved it on Wordpad and am copying and pasting when they do this, I apologize if there is a referral link.

** ko2007 ** 18:30, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Looks like someone is determined to post referral links, even undoing undo's to restore the links. Jasonfward (talk) 18:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Ko2007, STOP ADDING REFERRAL LINKS. You are adding referral links and saying you are adding a period. STOP IT. Even if you are just reverting to an older copy, dont you notice when the only thing you are changing is adding referral links? Chenhsi (talk) 04:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I will repeat Ko2007, STOP ADDING REFERRAL LINKS, I personally no longer believe you are acting in good faith, and if I knew how to get you banned I would be doing so. Jasonfward (talk) 18:51, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

stfu ** ko2007 ** 19:52, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Swearing now? At least with your comments on my talk page you confirm you are trying to personally profit from this article Jasonfward (talk) 20:28, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

You are honestly the smartest person I know. It would have taken many others much longer to figure that out.

I helped make it better, why should I not profit.

** ko2007 ** 22:54, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Earning money from something this article highlights puts you with a conflict of interest problem, which whilst I have no idea how to look up or quote the policy, I do know means you should not be editing the article at all. Jasonfward (talk) 00:13, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't mean I should not edit it, just that I should not put the links in. I know Wikipedia, I am breaking the rules, I am am an Editor gone bad. I still do some good work, I plan on editing this article some more soon, adding good things to it. Other than that, I still say stfu. :p ** ko2007 ** 05:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

You swear at people and by your own admission act disingenuously, not someone I can say I like editing anything for public consumption. Jasonfward (talk) 10:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Should we request to block him? Chenhsi (talk) 17:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I think so, I tried reading up on this last night, Ko2007 actions may not yet constitute reason for banning/blocking, but I am unsure, just as I am unsure how to go about asking, but yes. Jasonfward (talk) 18:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, he is vandalizing, refusing to stop, and he has admitted that he is doing this for personal profit. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents is the place to ask to block someone. Chenhsi (talk) 21:05, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I could not find an administrators notice board, so I have asked for the help of an administrator I know of from my edits on Doctor Who articles. Hopefully he can assist. Jasonfward (talk) 21:24, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Poor, poor Wikipedia noob.** ko2007 ** 20:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, I just removed someone else's. :p ** ko2007 ** 23:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, do you think we should request semi-protection on this article? It would stop anonymous users from editting the article, which should remove most of the vandalism? Users with accounts would not want to vandalize it in case they get blocked. Or, do you think that there is not a lot of vandalism recently and that you can take care of it? Chenhsi (talk) 05:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, i think so

new framework

I've changed the format of the article a bit. Feel free to fill it out a bit if you feel it needs it; It's still far from finished but has a clearer structure now. The reference to GamesDynamite is from the the German wikipedia, and I still need to find a reference to that. thanks. The Missing Piece (talk) 16:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Diagram

I have a Travian Buildings Diagram: File:Travian Buildings Diagram.JPG.

Should I add it to the article?

KevinJi9 (talk) 02:12, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Links to fansites

Why do these keep getting deleted, as almost any player of Travian will tell you many of the "fan sites" are essential for playing the game well, I see no reason why these shouldnt be referenced and linked to. Jasonfward (talk) 19:56, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Well unless someone replies I will add back some of the leading travian analyzers sites in the next few days, please comment here if you think that is a wrong move. Jasonfward (talk) 23:18, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Please see WP:EL. We are not here to teach people or help them play the game better. One link to the official site is sufficient. More than that and it begins to look like you are using Wikipedia to promote the game. See WP:SPAM. Happy editing.TheRingess (talk) 23:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

While I personally agree with you regarding "helping people play the game better," TheRingess, I don't actually see anything in WP:EL that would specifically counterindicate these links, and at least one item that supports their inclusion, specifically "3. Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to ... amount of detail...." I don't think it would be against policy so long as the quantity is kept fairly low, say, two or three links that have the greatest number of functions, or are the most broadly useful, e.g. a site that provides statistical information about all the troop types, the buildings at each level, and rate of return on resource field upgrades, or a utility that gives world-map-level information for any server. Dansiman (talk|Contribs) 06:40, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

External links should be the icing on the cake. 85.223.108.141 (talk) 19:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Practice of using IP Masks

I have removed that, as I know that most do not do this, they just use the same IP, something can be added about IP masks. However, it is far from "practice" of all players. ** ko2007 ** 18:28, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

New Worlds

I am suggesting that we get a list of all new worlds for the main used travians (for exapmple US). So this list would have the "Open Date" and the 300th day mark (or 100th in the speed servers). So? Stealth (talk) 23:26, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Im not against that idea per se, but Im not sure its what should be in encyclopedia, lists of things like that have been deleted before by editors who thought that they were totally inappropriate, I'm inclined to keep this article uncontroversial ala wiki guidelines Jasonfward (talk) 23:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)