Talk:Over Logging

trivia

i just KNOW someone is going to come in and say "YOU CANT HAVE A TRIVIA SECTION" and delete it.....anyone else think these people should stay out of here? the whole show is based on trivia.Whitey138 (talk) 02:30, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

It should be merged into the episode synopsis. -- goatasaur (talk) 02:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Normally I would add {{Trivia}} right away, but Whitey is right. SP really is based on a lot of trivia. I actually think we should find a "special" type of trivia section that would be used in all SP articles, but not just a list. More prose. diego_pmc (talk) 07:21, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

how about a 'behind the scenes' section —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.180.79.209 (talk) 14:02, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I want a trivia section. That's what I find most interesting about the whole article. I don't care if Wikipedia guidelines discourages it, I -- and many others -- want one!--Eikern (talk) 16:21, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Who the hell wants to read a whole block of text just to find the one reference they were wondering about? The plot should be just be a vague outline anyway. Adding trivia to it just makes for a large block of text containing badly formed sentences as people try to jam the trivia in. Really this whole thing is just the resule of the ongoing battle between WP inclusionists and exclusionists. See this slashdot article: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/10/0057210 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.74.194.6 (talk) 22:56, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I too appreciate finding the trivia here. Yes, it's not "sourced" properly - but so what?--74.14.165.66 (talk) 04:24, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

You are all free to post trivia on IMDB! They will not censor your ability to note that the "Internet Refugee Camp" looks eerily similar to a Japanese American internment camp from World War II or that one of the news anchors "was probably" modeled after some local news man from your area or that Randy breaking the TV store's windows was a reference to the LA Riots! Fight on for your right and complain on a talk page that has nothing to do with Wikipedia Policy! Strongsauce (talk) 11:10, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

wikipedia sucks so much with their guidelines! sentences being deleted, sections being deleted, pages being deleted! JUST cuz is doesnt meet guide lines! Wow! What is this? The NHL! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.96.85.49 (talk) 16:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree. It's a credit to the show that it references so many things. I think a References section is very helpful. They're separate from the plot, and it's not useful to anyone to have references integrated into the plot description. Blakecarlile (talk) 21:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Professor Chaos - stop deleting well-written information from South Park pages

You just deleted a LOT of good information and cultural references. It was relevant and does not fall under the wikipedia specifications of random and irrelevant lists. The Cultural References section was particularly well done. Please put this information back and do not delete information based solely on your own notion of what does not belong on wikipedia. Efeinberg (talk) 07:31, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I typically delete the section hoping that when it comes right back there's less crap in it. Then I work it into the plot synopsis where it belongs. Trivia sections are to be avoided. Professor Chaos (talk) 07:51, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Just a quick note: I just went back to work in the trivia, and it was all there in the article already! The entire trivia and cultural reference sections, the parts that weren't irrelevant, were redundant. So they're gone again. Professor Chaos (talk) 07:54, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

While some of it should be restored, the eight days comment shouldn't be. If "eight days without internet" means that Monday is the eighth day without it, then there's no goof. I therefore think the comment made about eight days is an error. 129.67.53.232 (talk) 08:16, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Close Encounter of the Third Kind

Communicating with it digitally was a direct spoof of Close Encounters of the Third Kind. The paragraph should be reworded to mention this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.21.114.210 (talk) 08:02, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

An Allusion to the status of Gasoline

Wasnt this episode sort of like an allusion to how people would react if they was not Gas left or something. Thats what I thought it was. Rio de oro (talk) 12:46, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Most likely not and without a source its just WP:OR Strongsauce (talk) 13:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Well I thought it was. Kept saying "not enough to go around", and also in the end "over using". I thought it was refering to how the USA is a large cousmer of OIL(Gasoline Usage). I thought that what it was refering. I thought this episode was just a illusion to the current situation the United States has with oil consumption. --Rio de oro (talk) 22:15, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Or (IMHO) about Energy Consumption [tm] -- not oil specifically, but our dependency on electrical/electronic gadgetry to do pretty much ANYTHING nowadays, including having fun (and finding out the weather -- guilty!) 199.214.26.9 (talk) 00:42, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Amir?

Was he that Arab kid from the episode the Snuke or something from last year. Someone added it to trivia. Rio de oro (talk) 12:48, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Useless trivia. Strongsauce (talk) 13:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

That is why trivia is trivia! :) Julyda4th (talk) 20:56, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

no, this kid is Shelley's age. The last kid would ahve been in fourth grade. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.180.79.209 (talk) 14:04, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Also the Arab kid who was in The Snuke in season 11 was named Bahir, not Amir. Efeinberg (talk) 16:19, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Bahir... Amir. The ending seems kind of close to the same. I think it was an illusion to Bahir. Also that guy look he was Arab. --Rio de oro (talk) 22:13, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Not EVERYTHING that seems vaguely similar is an allusion. Other than that they are both (seemingly) Muslim, the two characters have nothing in common, so there's really nothing to indicate that there is an allusion. -76.16.71.212 (talk) 05:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Known Parodies

Isn't this entire episode a reference to that country recently that was left without internet for like 3 days. I forget whether it was Japan or China, maybe even part of Russia. Jay794 (talk) 13:01, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I believe it was Vietnam a few months ago. 81.50.225.33 (talk) 13:08, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Didn't hear about this but it's kind of a stretch to consider they were directly mentioning a specific outage of the Internet. Strongsauce (talk) 13:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I remember hearing about the entire continent of Asia being without internet for a little bit recently. I don't remember the exact details, even though it was just a month or two ago.76.105.205.97 (talk) 07:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, maybe we should mention something about that in the article? cos even if it isn't based on that it is the same. Jay794 (talk) 13:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Weren't the black and white scenes and the plot of moving out west a parody of Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath? 75.46.43.187 (talk) 19:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Absoloutely Grapes of Wrath, right down to lashing everything they own on the car. Schoop (talk) 19:53, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

So can we add in the part about Asia losing the internet possibly being the entire basis this episode? Jay794 (talk) 19:47, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Moonraker

The scene when they are at "The Internet" and they attempt to communicate with it "digitally."

The sound played by the piano is the same sound used in the James Bond movie Moonraker (film). It is the sound played by the keypad used to enter the lab in Venice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.144.125.245 (talk) 13:55, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

True, but the use in Moonraker was an allusion to the earlier Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Schoop (talk) 14:23, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Even the short "runway" makes it look like Encounters--74.14.165.66 (talk) 04:26, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Didn't know that, thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.144.150.103 (talk) 13:40, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Jericho

The opening to the episode with the whole town standing around realizing no one has internet anywhere is without-a-doubt a reference to Jericho. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.127.140.203 (talk) 01:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street for a bit. 76.105.205.97 (talk) 07:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Not a reference to Ghostbusters.

I have deleted the mention that Randy getting slimed with ectoplasm is a reference to Ghostbusters. Ectoplasm pre-dates Ghostbusters by some time, and I fail to see a connection. Perhaps put it back if you can find a reference? DanTheShrew (talk) 12:34, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

You were right to remove the statement. My opinion is that it probably is a reference to Ghostbusters, but it's not noteworthy and only belongs here with a reference. Professor Chaos (talk) 18:59, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Independence Day reference

This one seems to be pretty vague. That scene is probably in every single movie where there is a secret government lab.

Brazilian Fart Porn

There was an edit for Brazilian fart porn being a spoof on 2girls1cup. This is not correct. Brazilian Fart Porn is a site where you see videos of girls smelling each others farts... DON'T CHANGE IT BACK! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.221.40.27 (talk) 09:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)