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I like Barack Obama's line: "There is not a liberal America and a conservative America, there is the United States of America." - signed by an anon IP

Obama also said in a televised campaign speech on May 11, 2008 (if my memory is correct): "We are Americans: whether you are conservative/liberal, Northern/Southern/East coast/West coast, urban/rural/suburban, male/female, black/white/brown/yellow, young/old, rich/poor, Christian/Jewish/otherwise...we are Americans first". I doubt this is anything relevant to the Two Americas article, but he rejected Edwards' doom-and-gloom class division speech and Obama wants to change the rigid class structure pattern to kept out poor Americans for a long time. + 71.102.53.48 (talk) 13:26, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the Obama quote/response from? Source please. Beeswax07- signed by an anon IP

Origins

The two americas speech didnt originate at the 2004 DNC. I know for a fact that he had been using it on the campaign trail as early as june 2003, if not even earlier than that. I changed the article slightly to reflect that. Rbell73 (talk) 13:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sources needed

I don't really see how that is relevant to the 'Two Americas' idea, or why it is linked here. 74.64.99.122 (talk) 17:53, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kerry's coined "Forgotten American" speech

In 2004, John Kerry addressed the rapid decline of working class income, the near extinction of the lower-middle-class and the lack of proper attention given to poor Americans. He coined the term "Forgotten Americans", but it never caught on as easily and the term was forgotten (no pun intended) by the time he lost the presidential election to incumbent George W. Bush. The 2000s Democratic party has been more focused on class issues than the Republicans: John Kerry, Al Gore, Edwards and the Clintons (Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton) has further expanded the image of the Democrats' "party of poverty" left over from the Great Depression (the FDR administrations 1933-45) and the "War on poverty" in the JFK-LBJ era-1960s, and Edwards is simply fighting the old Democratic party policy to curb the ongoing socioeconomic marginalization of non-affluent workers. + 71.102.53.48 (talk) 13:31, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 The two americas speech didnt originate at the 2004 DNC. I know for a fact that he had been using it on the campaign trail as early as june 2003, if not even earlier than that. I changed the article slightly to reflect that. [[User:Rbell73|Rbell73]] ([[User talk:Rbell73|talk]]) 13:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
-== Porque no te callas? ==
+== Sources needed ==
 I don't really see how that is relevant to the 'Two Americas' idea, or why it is linked here. [[Special:Contributions/74.64.99.122|74.64.99.122]] ([[User talk:74.64.99.122|talk]]) 17:53, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
+== Kerry's coined "Forgotten American" speech ==
+In 2004, John Kerry addressed the rapid decline of working class income, the near extinction of the lower-middle-class and the lack of proper attention given to poor Americans. He coined the term "Forgotten Americans", but it never caught on as easily and the term was forgotten (no pun intended) by the time he lost the presidential election to incumbent [[George W. Bush]]. The 2000s Democratic party has been more focused on class issues than the Republicans: John Kerry, [[Al Gore]], Edwards and the Clintons ([[Bill Clinton]] and [[Hillary Clinton]]) has further expanded the image of the Democrats' "party of poverty" left over from the [[Great Depression]] (the FDR administrations 1933-45) and the "War on poverty" in the JFK-LBJ era-1960s, and Edwards is simply fighting the old Democratic party policy to curb the ongoing socioeconomic marginalization of non-affluent workers. + [[Special:Contributions/71.102.53.48|71.102.53.48]] ([[User talk:71.102.53.48|talk]]) 13:31, 18 May 2008 (UTC)