Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Toronto Blue Jays managers/archive2

List of Toronto Blue Jays managers

previous FLC (08:36, 17 July 2008)

I am re-nominating this article because I believe it actually deserves to be promoted to featured list material. Annoyomous24 20:38, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Crzycheetah 23:08, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

• Comment I can't verify any info in the "playoffs" column. Needs sources. DONE! --Crzycheetah 21:25, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Not done! I still can't find it.--Crzycheetah 02:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I hope this way would work. Annoyomous24 00:48, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

It would, but I think listing just one link would be even better. It took me 5 mins to find it. ;) Put it as an in-line citation in the "playoffs" column.--Crzycheetah 01:48, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

DONE! Annoyomous2403:54, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

"Number of coaches" is ambiguous and should be changed to maybe terms of coaches(?)

GC should be changed to GM (games managed)

Crzycheetah 03:15, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Done the second bullet. I don't think it's ambigous since almost all sports list related to coaching use it so I don't think it is going to be a problem. Annoyomous24 20:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• Comments
  • They are the first and only team.. - the second part of this sentence is redundant.
  • With the fellow Canadian franchise ... - this sentence should be reworded better.
  • He is followed by Bobby Cox with in both categories with 648 games and 355 wins - Should be reworded
  • Gaston is the only... and Cox is the only... - either these two sentences should be reworded better.
  • The fact that Cox won 1985 AL Manager of the Year is not sourced.
  • Whenever I click on the "c" footnote, nothing happens because there is no 'c" note in the notes section.
  • 2008–Present → 2008–present
  • The "Playoffs Information" reference should be cited from the "playoffs" column instead.

--Crzycheetah 23:08, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Done all but I don't get what you mean by The "Playoffs Information" reference should be cited from the "playoffs" column instead. -- K. Annoyomous24 23:32, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

• Support--Crzycheetah 23:58, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

• Object. The list says Bobby Cox has 293 losses but the reference says 292. The list says Jimy Williams has 522 games coached but the reference says 523. maclean 00:52, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

They must have miswrote it. I fixed it on the table. Annoyomous24 01:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

The mantra at Wikipedia:Verifiability is "verifiability, not truth" which is why we insist on Wikipedia:Reliable sources. I understand that Baseball-Reference.com has been accepted in previous FLs as reliable, however, we will require a better source here to verify this list. maclean 02:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I actually added up the wins and losses and it adds up to what is on the table. Also, there is a second reference which backs up baseball-reference.com. The second reference is more reliable from the stats stand point. Annoyomous24 02:44, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

It's considered WP:OR. You need to change current references #5 and 6.--Crzycheetah 07:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

CHANGED REFERENCES FOR BOBBY COX AND JIMY WILLIAMS! -- K. Annoyomous24 20:38, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I corrected the one inconsistency.[1] The list looks good, but I find the introduction does not demonstrate a command of the subject, specifically why/how managers of the Blue Jays changed over time. --maclean 03:59, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Killervogel5

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I give this list my conditional support, based on the outcome of the comment below. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 00:45, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

• Why isn't the table sortable?

In one of my previous FLCs, someone told me that you shouldn't sort the table for sports-coach related lists.

I don't know who told you that, but I'm in an FLC right now for the Phillies managers, and I had to sort that one. The FLC criteria state that the table... "is easy to navigate, and includes—where helpful—section headings and table sort facilities." (from WP:WIAFL).

Your FLC has a different format than mine. if I sort my table, it'll look messed up. Check for yourself. -- K. Annoyomous24

I'm aware that our FLCs are certainly different, but the table is still able to be sorted. Click here for more info.

DONE! but I have a problem that I've been trying to fix all day. That problem is that I can't put the first row back to its original position. -- K. Annoyomous24 00:47, 29 July 2008 (UTC)