User talk:Grey Knight

You have new messes (spare change).

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Less snarky

It just feels right to keep the stuff on my talk page in the snark right now. I have been using dictionary paste actually, to transform the writing of others into 'original words' -- writing this here now should save many a respectable admin a lot of time finding additional problems with my articles.

My goal has been to clean up the taxonomy boxes for all of Asteraceae both here and at the commons and I have actually, by my own estimation of myself have done a not too bad job of it. The attention my articles have received recently is kind of funny and anything that you can or want to do to any of the problem articles mentioned there or found by you will probably be welcomed by me. My first experience with the plant people was to learn that there is no ownership here. There are (however) also really big messes that no one claims ownership for as well. My first article for Asteraceae was Senecio vulgaris and enough time and experience has past that I am embarrassed by this article now. I have also been working on a table of plants and the amount of the dangerous stuff that is actually in the different plants -- this starts to go away from the goal of cleaning up the family though.

In the many decades which have been my life, I have worked successfully alone and I have worked successfully with other people. In the unreal internet life, I felt very successful (enough to have seen what are perhaps my software 'children' mature and become extremely beastly on their own) and recently, I have no way to measure the success as I have no idea how far my internet goes. Like, once I asked one of the commons photographers if he was making the eyes of the animals he had photographed larger -- quite soon after that, images that came here from time.com had software enlarged eyes. I have not been given a yardstick (or a micrometer) which can measure this for success or not.

So, much less snarky, it is wikipedia and you really can do what you want to and if you would like to help with those articles which have problem pastes, I will probably mostly appreciate it. -- carol (talk) 21:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Looks good to me! I will thank you because the lazy web probably won't -- so thank you! -- carol (talk) 10:42, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Snark

I perhaps cannot be snarky at my 'place' right now, so I am here.

They reverted the article which has the most references to it back to a redirection. Then they deleted it. Then they moved the article which is probably much much worse for plagiarism into the namespace. Effectively making it look like the people in the original edit history have plagiarised and not me because my edits in that history were to remove the taxonomy boxen which is going to be difficult to be called plagiarism.

My feelings about this have no understanding of what their job is. -- carol (talk) 09:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, thanks :)

Nice of you to say I'd be a good mentor, but I'm one of those lucky (or unlucky) few who's life is tied to the seasons, and I really can't take on a mentorship role at this time of year. OTOH, I think you seem to have the right stuff, and I can try to chip in a bit when I have time and mental space :).

In Carol's case, I would also not be a very good mentor, because she's seen me in action as judge, jury, and executioner on commons (long story), so I don't know that she would ever be comfortable with me as an equal helping an equal (same long story... we do things differently on projects lacking arbcoms).

She's definitely worth the effort though, so if you have the time and the empathy, I'd strongly urge you to do what you can. Just remember to ask for help (me or someone else) if you find it getting a bit too much :-). --SB_Johnny | ^talk 18:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice

Thanks for that - I'll stick the template up! --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 02:15, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

mKR sources

I had two inspirations today. We might get input from

an mKR user, who I know is happy with mKR and mKE

Ralph Griswold, who helped me during early Icon implementation

I'm inclined to think that the situation would mean a great deal, even if no one talked to these people. Rhmccullough (talk) 03:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I talked to mKR user; he is very concerned about his privacy. He is willing to share his thoughts re: mKR if he can remain anonymous. Rhmccullough (talk) 08:41, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I found out Ralph Griswold died in 2006. Everything I know is recorded in User:Rhmccullough/Sandbox/Griswold. Rhmccullough (talk) 17:21, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

eh?

For some reason, your user contributions only seem to be listed upto the 7th July 2007 ? know anything about that? software error? --Allemandtando (talk) 12:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Looks fine. --Allemandtando (talk) 13:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

THE MEDAL

Since the development discussion is taking place on Penubag's talk page, I've left a message for you there.

Time is running out.

July 15th is coming fast.

The Transhumanist    19:15, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Pyramid

Eureka! Eureka!

I'm having an eureka event here!

I need a pyramid.

A 3D pyramid that I can swivel and tip to put in the proper perspective in an image.

I need it to have a rectangular base, with one pair of edges half the length of the other pair of edges.

Can you create one like that?

How would I turn and tip it?

I look forward to your response.

The Transhumanist    00:46, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

RE: Pyramid

Can probably do that, depending on what you mean exactly; I'll talk to you about it after getting these trophies and things done (assuming User:penubag's latest medal is satisfactory, I'll try for the globe one). --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 12:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

The pyramid is for the trophy.  :)

See Penubag's talk page for details.

The Transhumanist    21:27, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

ALG EBR ASUX

I have no idea where to comment in that thing, that PTA or whatever is. I also think that the last week (or more) has been like the organization in A Scanner Darkly (film) a film which when I saw, I wanted to repair a few of the frames for (some of the scenes in the shade in front of the house were almost in their photograph like original form). And I laughed because they invented a flower for it (or reused the Batman invention).... Also, the software to make that film (convert photographs into animation like that) is in my gmail archives somewhere. I never put it on my web site because the script does some things that make the image frames unsuitable for conversion into video formats and keeping things simple for everyone involves a dumbing down that I did not need for myself when I wrote the little tools. But, I stray here.

If you did not see the movie, and it has been a while since I have seen it, there was an organization which overlooked everything and everyone and they had these special suits that changed 'skins' so that every few seconds they had a different appearance. There is at least one admin at the commons who doesn't take this very seriously and can be seen through quite easily. I am also sorry about making an analogy to a movie; it is a situation on the wiki which is not like real life. In real life, snarky usually is very affective (not 100% of the time, but more than 70%!!)!

Interestingly enough, this feeling from the last week does not surprise me.

What I would rather do is write an apology to the Plant Project people about my problem with what appears to be my desire to put the science of botany deeply back into its "Anals of" origins. This is just one of those side-effects from my birthsign which when I read that they chose the symbol for it because it looked like a digestive system I had one of those uncomfortable laughs and wondered when I would get home so I could sit somewhere safe for a while and consider that....

So, in summary, I have no idea where I am supposed to comment there and my instinct (be it correct or incorrect for this situation) is to paste the page with {{citation needed}}'s which is probably more efficient than right. -- carol (talk) 22:20, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

you might not have seen

this. Broadly, if you make any comments on my page, it seems the citizens patrol will note them down and might use them against you in the future as the implication is that you will be dragged up in front of arbcomm. So Remember, swear loyalty to the party and denounce me at the first opportunity you get :-) --Allemandtando (talk) 17:51, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Cartoon/comic/pop culture preservation

Hello! Thanks for the message. I've been away from wikipedia for a bit, and now it seems someone has seen fit to delete the topic I set up at the village pump ... or at least I can't find it anywhere anymore. If you could, would you please let me know what it was you replied to me? If not, no problem.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Aebliss (talk • contribs)

Zeltim Odie Peterson

I have created Zeltim Odie Peterson. I hope you can help improve it. Best regards. Dolores Luxedo (talk) 02:27, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Wierdness

Your blue bar at the top that looks like a new messages message says:

You have new messes (spare change).

but they link to Grand Opera Hous (Belfast) and "spare change" to another link. What's the joke?68.148.164.166 (talk) 08:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Haha, I thought messes had something to do with mess halls. Thanks for the reply.68.148.164.166 (talk) 05:36, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Topology expert/expert in topology sock case

Hi, Thanks for your comments on this case. Can you say more specifically what edits of Expert in topology indicate to you that he/she is an established user? I assume that you agree that EiT is a sock, but you don't think that TE is involved. Oded (talk) 17:20, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Please note my reply to your comments on my talk page. If this changes your opinion in any way, please also update your statement at the sock discussion page. Thanks for your help in this case. Oded (talk) 17:56, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Odie the talking pug

Thank you for your message. Some of those people on ANI were being so hurtful, especially Bugs and his crew. They're so full of hatred - and I'm sure they will never know the love of a pug or indeed any dog. I hope he steps on a rusty nail or some other minor mishap. Someone has actually already created an article about Odie the talking pug for me - but thanks again for your offer. I think everyone can now see how notable he truly is. Pug power (talk) 14:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Interesting

about the cards - looking around Rorschach inkblot test had similar problems (I'm not sure so in that situation, because there is a medical aspect to the dispute that makes me think maybe we need to think a bit more careful about the handling of such material. --Allemandtando (talk) 13:50, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

That's a very good point - if something is truly a secret - we cannot write about it! --Allemandtando (talk) 13:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

If you can find a suitable article, give me a knock and we can put it to the test. :-) --Allemandtando (talk) 08:50, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Gospel Magic

Hi...I wrote the article for Gospel Magic. If you point out the problems with the article, I'm happy to revise it. The fist few paragraphs were there before I added to it and I didn't feel comfortable rewriting it as they reflected someone else's work. If you make a few suggestions, I will see what I can do.--64.131.243.108 (talk) 17:16, 15 July 2008 (UTC)Kismet

RE: Editing Practices

Thanks for your insight and feedback. Regardless of the outcome of my request, I do appreciate your time and effort to communicate with me and provide some useful information. Wikipedia had been blocked here in China for the past two years, so I could only use a proxy server to jump on briefly. This narrow window has left me with little ability to explore and develop a clearer understanding of policies and procedures. So again thanks for your tact and willingness to explain, which has helped and - if nothing else - put me at ease with the situation.

Kazkura (talk) 00:24, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Help...

Hello, Grey Knight. You have new messages at Bluegoblin7's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

BG7even 09:38, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Other language wikipedias

Just out of interest - Do you happen to know how hosting works for other language wikipedias? Is the german (for example) hosted in germany or is it in the states? If it's hosted in Germany, they have quite strong laws again the display and use of nazi symbols. --Allemandtando (talk) 16:03, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Criticism

Thanks for posting the links at VP: I was not aware of those 2 pages. Looks like {{criticism-section}} has a lot of places it could link to for advice in resolving the issue. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 21:16, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Wow

Because of you, we can see the light at the end of the tunnel. We're getting close now!

I've replied to you at User:Penubag/graphics#Puzzle-globe.

The Transhumanist    23:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Striking out?

Dear Grey Knight,

Could you please tell me how to 'strike out' my comment? I am not sure what you mean by this. If I understand you correctly, you want me to remove my statement about revealing my identity (is this correct?). I still believe that revealing my identity is an appropriate thing to do in the future so that people will believe that I am not 'expert in topology'. However, this doesn't mean that I will reveal my true identity. Also, I find it quite rude that Oded persistently asks me to admit that I am 'expert in topology'. Unless he has concrete evidence (not evidence about my writing style but 'real-life' evidence), his accusation is insignificant. However, I will remove what I said earlier (you are right that it is irrelevant to the discussion).

Also, I don't know why I am targeted for making mistakes. For example, the first person to really make a mistake (between Oded and I) was Oded. He wrote that the integers are a locally finite space which is incorrect as he admitted: [1]. I did not ask him why he made this mistake nor did I persistently target him for this. In the next discussion I made a mistake by stating that a nowhere dense set had 0 measure: [2]; what I meant was that a set of 0 measure is nowhere dense. Of course, what I wrote still counts as a mistake. However, when I made this mistake, Oded responded with an 'attack'. He asked me why I made this mistake in quite a rude tone. Now almost everyone in Wikipedia that I know seems to attack me with this. I believe that his mistake was as bad as mine and that the sockpuppetry issue started because of this mistake.

I hope you understand what I am trying to say regarding this. Enough evidence of my mistakes have been given (by other editors in Wikipedia) so here is another evidence of Oded's mistake: [3]. I am sure that Oded and I have made an equal number of mistakes in Wikipedia or I have made a couple more mistakes than Oded.

Also, I am almost certain that 'Oded' is Oded Schramm. One can deduce this from the nature of the articles that he edits.

Thanks

Topology Expert (talk) 03:21, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Interesting start of an essay there

Thanks for the link to it. Maybe I need to write an essay at some point myself. I don't even have time to think about that, though: got alligators to wrestle, creating an article on Toilet paper roll end-sheet folding (first step: figure out the best title) and other important matters. You would think that "be humble" would be one of those things that we'd be told to do to become a very model of a modern Wikipedian. Like civility, a little humility goes a long way. Noroton (talk) 18:43, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of globes

Sorry, I forgot to notify you when I put this on penubag's centralised page the other day. Please see discussion there. Hope that helps! --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 07:26, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Wow. It does. I've posted my reply to you on Penubag's graphics page. The Transhumanist    23:16, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

re protection of Origin of religion

Sorry I disagree with the one weeks protection. I also see some conflict of interest issues with the admin who put the protection on the article. There is an edit war "game" going on when the article quite clearly could still be worked. I disagree with your support for the protection and you can rest assured that now this page is on my watch list I will definitely be "watching" what transpires, and if I see the need for an administrators actions needing a review I will make sure that happens.--Sting Buzz Me... 10:06, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I have posted a response User_talk:Sam_Korn#Thanks.Mr. Muntuwandi (talk) 15:04, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

re interested editor

G'day Grey Knight. I still smell something fishy about this whole Origins of religion business. The article Evolutionary origins of religion has been salted (by another admin with prior involvement in several of the articles I'm currently looking at) and now I can't access the history that had the material for a possible merger. I still have concerns over possible WP:GHBH issues? But it's such a tangled web that I'm still trying to figure it all out. The actions of a couple of administrators need looking into I feel, as a concerted effort has been made to hide article history, I'll assume good faith but would be happier if others looked into it. I've taken on board your comments re mediation and the RFC on the talk page. The RFC is a lesson in futility by the looks of it. Why so? Because of all the socks/suspects involved that's why. What I also see happening here and on related articles with this topic is that unsuspecting administrators get dragged into the whole "game" of cat and mouse. It wastes valuable admin time and creates a situation where legitimate editing of an article becomes virtually impossible due to all the tooing and throwing (dunno about the spelling there, but you get my drift I'm sure). I'd suggest you take the time (if you have a few hours to spare) and review edit histories and the parties involved please. It seems strange to me that now this has been brought to attention that PelleSmith has decided to go on an indefinite wikibreak? I'm glad actually as I feel some editors involved with this series of articles definately need to step back and let fresh eyes take a look at things. At least until the WP:GHBH issues can be cleared up.--Sting Buzz Me... 23:41, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I tried going on said wikibreak but was sucked in by Muntuwandi's disruption and subsequent socking (I know ... I should have let others deal with it)--but my point is that I announced said break initially before this crap started. As I've told Sam Korn if I'm needed to make any comments about anything just send me an email, but I'm rather intent on actually doing my psyche a favor and staying away from the Wiki this time around. You're own out of left field, not even close to showing AGF insinuations about GHBH did help convince me how desperately I need away from this nonsense however, so do thank yourself. Have a good one.PelleSmith (talk) 23:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I replied to PelleSmith on his talk page but he archived it.--Sting Buzz Me... 02:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok I've just received an abusive email from PelleSmith. What should I do about it?--Sting Buzz Me... 02:59, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

G'day again Grey Knight, I just wanted to thank you for all the trouble you went to with the info links etc. I still have concerns with WP:GHBH but it is pretty hard to actually nail down if people are doing that or not? I might tell Sam Korn my thoughts about it, and see what his opinion on it is? Just something that is playing on my mind. The cup of tea is a great idea. You give very sound advice. Hopefully I'm wise enough to take it? Thanks again for your assistance and enjoy your break. Cheers,--Sting Buzz Me... 23:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

re: Hangul fonts

Hi, the only free TTF collection worth using is Un Fonts, from http://kldp.net/projects/unfonts/

The Batang, Dotum, Graphic fonts in the core package are worth checking out IMHO. If you use Ubuntu or Debian, sudo apt-get install ttf-unfonts-core should work. --Kjoonlee 14:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Too Fast

Beep-beep!. Thanks for the compliment. You guys at the help desk are really on top of things and I'm just glad to chip in. TN‑X-Man 14:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

portal:afghanistan

If you could fix it by rearranging the boxes then great! thanks!Ardeshire Babakan (talk) 16:08, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

thank you User:Grey Knight. but i just found out that afghanistan doesn't have a wikiproject! so this section isn't needed. Thank you for the other help that you gave me. KhodafezArdeshire Babakan (talk) 16:21, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Cheers.Ardeshire Babakan (talk) 12:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

wikipedia index php error

Just further to what I posted on my talk page, it may or may not be that the error happens when I click on the links at the top of the page, e.g. the links that start with user page, and, above that, my / our log in links.

I have also taken a screen grab of the error message ... but not sure where or how to post it ...?

update: is it just me or do some links show up as red ... for example when I click on the user Nevers on this page, it shows as red, and returns an index error. But his talk page appears in blue and does not return an error.

A final note (?) hopefully, that in Safari, the link does not attempt to open multiple pages and scatter scraps all over the mac desktop like Safari 3 does. That particular reaction seems unique to FF3.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Avaiki (talk • contribs) 20:39, 23 July 2008 (UTC) 

avaiki (talk) 20:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

We Meet Again

Thank you for catching that vandalism. Apparently that editor thought it would be hilarious to add a bunch of nonsense articles. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 13:55, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

refactor maths desk

You can refactor it if you wish, or simply post the tex version underneath with a message similar to 'for clarity...'

I have no objection.87.102.86.73 (talk) 14:14, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

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The Transhumanist    01:57, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

The Ruum!

YES! I remember that odd title! That's almost certainly it. I think we were reading some Bradbury around the same time, so that's where I got confused. Plus its also a sci-fi story, and sounds like something Bradbury might have written, anyway. Thanks!! :D --Ragemanchoo (talk) 04:49, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Good work sir!

Why thank you! I am so glad we have found the story. Although the Captain rommel seem to remove my messages and abandon my kind efforts to help him. But we got there! Well done uncle King of the Fondue (talk) 11:20, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Reply from BAS (re: Abdul Ahad)

Much to my surprise I received a reply from Mr. Sarker of Bangladesh Astronomical Society per Abdul Ahad's claim of honorary memebership of his organisation. If you (or Ragib) would like to have it, I can forward the eMail of you supply me yours. Regards. Uranometria (talk) 17:09, 30 July 2008 (UTC)