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Wrong name

ICF´s top boy is called Bill Gardiner not Bill Gardner,just look in Bill Bufords book about hooligans second story about manchester. em´kay —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.124.125.177 (talk) 17:18, 18 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Actually if you check the book cover title, his surname is Gardner - "Good Afternoon, Gentlemen, the Name's Bill Gardner". Check for it on amazon with picture of the book cover. ♦Tangerines BFC ♦·Talk 00:51, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The whole article should be deleted or re-written properly. To call someone the leader of a hooligan firm without proper citations is potentially libellous. In Gardner's own book he portrays himself as his own man rather than a member of a firm as such, so this needs clarification as well as balance. --Jameboy 19:29, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It most definitely doesn't need deleting simply because of whether or not a person was the leader of a hooligan firm, nor because it might be poorly worded. What it would need because of that would be editing, and if you consider something to be wrong then by all means edit the article and add sourced content. If he wasn't the leader then remove the sentence saying he was. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 13:59, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're right of course. I didn't mean it literally, I was just annoyed. --Jameboy 18:39, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Revision of article

I have removed some unnecessary info that is either irrelevant to the article or otherwise reflects a POV (see Wiki policy on point of view). I have also cleaned up the grammar and syntax. Keep in mind that like all Wikipedia articles, even those documenting controversial subjects, must remain non-partisan and at the very least, resemble a more academic tone than something you might find on a blog or message board. The article should not reflect the personal viewpoints of anyone -- first person or otherwise. Ryecatcher773 18:12, 5 July 2007 (UTC)Talk[reply]

Riot in Ohio?

I think it's a bit ridiculous that a minor scuffle between a small handful of fans comprises about one fourth of this entry. I would think it would have to be one of the more minor incidents in the group's history. Also, the term "riot" expresses the user's POV since it hasn't been described as such in any published source that I have found. MitchStein (talk) 19:03, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Completely agree with both points made above. I had deleted it before but it was put back in. Glad to see it's been taken out again. 87.80.83.45 (talk) 20:46, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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	I think it's a bit ridiculous that a minor scuffle between a small handful of fans comprises about one fourth of this entry. I would think it would have to be one of the more minor incidents in the group's history. Also, the term "riot" expresses the user's POV since it hasn't been described as such in any published source that I have found. [[User:MitchStein\|MitchStein]] ([[User talk:MitchStein\|talk]]) 19:03, 25 July 2008 (UTC)		I think it's a bit ridiculous that a minor scuffle between a small handful of fans comprises about one fourth of this entry. I would think it would have to be one of the more minor incidents in the group's history. Also, the term "riot" expresses the user's POV since it hasn't been described as such in any published source that I have found. [[User:MitchStein\|MitchStein]] ([[User talk:MitchStein\|talk]]) 19:03, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

			:Completely agree with both points made above. I had deleted it before but it was put back in. Glad to see it's been taken out again. [[Special:Contributions/87.80.83.45\|87.80.83.45]] ([[User talk:87.80.83.45\|talk]]) 20:46, 1 August 2008 (UTC)