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{{Notable Citation|''Stvilia, B. et al. ''[http://www.isrl.uiuc.edu/~stvilia/papers/qualWiki.pdf Information Quality Discussions in Wikipedia]''. University of Illinois U-C.}} |
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== Wikipedia is a Wiki? (NO!) == |
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It says in the very first paragraph that Wikipedia is a Wiki. WHAT?! NO! [http://www.wikitubia.org WIKITUBIA] is a WIKI. WIKIPEDIA is a WIKIMEDIA PROJECT! Or, is it? [[User:NuttyGorillaWiki|NuttyGorillaWiki]] ([[User talk:NuttyGorillaWiki|talk]]) 23:48, 17 March 2008 (UTC) |
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: eh? wiki is knowledge managements best friend? --<span style="font-family: Mistral">[[User:Fredrick day|Fredrick day]]</span> 23:50, 17 March 2008 (UTC) |
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: eh? wiki refers to software in that first paragraph not ownership? --<span style="font-family: Mistral">[[User:Fredrick day|Fredrick day]]</span> 23:50, 17 March 2008 (UTC) |
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: A wiki is a type of website that allows visitors to edit the content. It has '''nothing to do with ownership'''. Oh, and by the way, I think your link is broken. And easy on the caps, man. You were screaming almost your entire statement. --[[Special:Contributions/71.125.5.51|71.125.5.51]] ([[User talk:71.125.5.51|talk]]) 12:20, 24 June 2008 (UTC) |
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It is an user interface |
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. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/121.242.16.5|121.242.16.5]] ([[User talk:121.242.16.5|talk]]) 10:41, 7 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Protection == |
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Sorry, I see it was a bad idea to remove the protection, so it's back again. -- [[User:Ricky81682|Ricky81682]] ([[User talk:Ricky81682|talk]]) 06:57, 18 March 2008 (UTC) |
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== Lack of Recent Citation == |
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"Wikipedia is one of the best known wikis." I'd like this to have a new citation. Is it doable? Or is it still recent enough to be considered good?[[User:Beamathan|Beam]] ([[User talk:Beamathan|talk]]) 03:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Best known or best-known? == |
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Unless it's supposed to mean "well-known," isn't this POV? [[Special:Contributions/71.246.222.208|71.246.222.208]] ([[User talk:71.246.222.208|talk]]) 19:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Article is in a sorry state == |
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This article is in a very sad state. It lost nearly a third of all of its information in a single vandalism event, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wiki&diff=193481780&oldid=193229995 here], and no one has caught it until now? That's ridiculous. [[User:Gary King|Gary King]] ([[User talk:Gary King|talk]]) 03:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Definition == |
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In [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wiki&diff=164450195&oldid=163797460 this] edit, a user changed the definition completely, from |
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:''A '''wiki''' is a medium which can be edited by anyone with access to it, and provides an easy method for [[hyperlink|linking]] from one page to another.'' |
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to |
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:''A '''wiki''' is computer software that allows users to easily edit, create, and [[hyperlink|link]] web pages.'' |
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- with no other reference or justification than exclaiming ''"Medium? It's software."'', apparently unaware of the Wikipedia principle that information should be based on [[Wikipedia:reliable sources|reliable sources]], not personal opinions. (It also contradicts most of the rest of the article, and the fact that there is a separate entry about [[Wiki software]].) |
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For the word "wiki" as it is used today, all the reliable sources that I am aware of give a version of the first definition, e.g. the [[Oxford English Dictionary]]: |
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:''A type of web page designed so that its content can be edited by anyone who accesses it, using a simplified markup language.'' [http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/50293088] |
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or the Britannica article: |
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:''World Wide Web (WWW) site that can be modified or contributed to by users. Wikis can be dated to 1995, when American computer programmer Ward Cunningham created a new collaborative technology for organizing information on Web sites. Using a Hawaiian term meaning “quick,” he called this new software WikiWikiWeb ...''[http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9404276/wiki] |
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It is true that Cunningham used "wiki" initially to denote one specific program, his first implementation of the concept around 1995: |
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:''I named the technology WikiWikiWeb. [...] My first implementation was as a Unix program, which are traditionally radically abbreviated and all lower case: [[cal (Unix)|cal]] for Calendar. So, following this convention, my first implementation of WikiWikiWeb technology was with a program named wiki. This shows up in the URL for the site and has become the shorthand term for the technology.''[http://c2.com/doc/etymology.html] |
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In "the technology", it is not specified if the medium or the software is meant, but further down he seems to indicate that he is talking about the medium: |
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:''I wanted an unusual word to name for what was an unusual technology. I was not trying to duplicate any existing medium, like mail, so I didn't want a name like electronic mail (email) for my work.'' |
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In any case, the prevalent usage today seems to be the medium, not the software (similar to [[database]] vs. [[database management system]]). |
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That seems also to have been the conclusion of the publishers of the OED, to whom the above correspondence of Ward Cunningham was directed. |
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Regards, [[User:High on a tree|High on a tree]] ([[User talk:High on a tree|talk]]) 17:13, 18 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:I notice the mention about 'knowledge management' is still in the lead. I'm not sure if that should belong there or not? [[User:Gary King|Gary King]] ([[User talk:Gary King|talk]]) 17:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Differences between Wiki and Content Management Systems == |
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I need to clarify. The differences between a Wiki and a Content Management System was previously present in this article and was removed. I propose putting it back. |
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The information about differences between a Wiki and a Content Management System is valuable information (assuming it is accurate). If this information is not provided here then is it available somewhere else? If it is not found in another location then it does need to exist somewhere and I suggest that it be returned to this article (though I believe the wording could be cleaned up). |
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Here is the information that was removed for reference: |
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'''Wikis have shared and encouraged certain features with generalized content management systems (CMS), which are used by enterprises and communities-of-practice. Those looking to compare a CMS with an enterprise wiki should consider these basic features:[citation needed] |
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1. The name of an article is embedded in the hyperlink. |
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2. Articles can be created or edited at anytime by anyone (with certain limitations for protected articles). |
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3. Articles are editable through the web browser. |
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4. Each article provides one-click access to the history/versioning page, which also supports version differencing ("diff") and retrieving prior versions. |
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5. The most recent additions/modifications of articles can be monitored actively or passively. |
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6. Easy revert of changes is possible. |
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'''None of these are particular to a wiki, and some have developed independently. Still the concept of a wiki unequivocally refers to this core set of features. Taken together, they fit the generative nature of the Internet, in encouraging each user to help build it.[17] It is yet to be studied whether an enterprise wiki encourages more usage, or leads to more knowledgeable community members, than other content management systems'''''' |
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[[User:Uniquenamessuck|Uniquenamessuck]] ([[User talk:Uniquenamessuck|talk]]) 20:03, 7 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Potential changes == |
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We should include a link to comparison of wiki software on this page. I had to resort to google to find it. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software |
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[[User:Gm4n|Gm4n]] ([[User talk:Gm4n|talk]]) 21:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC) |
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It might also help when name dropping MediaWiki to make it a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/65.110.1.7|65.110.1.7]] ([[User talk:65.110.1.7|talk]]) 19:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Vici == |
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Vici is Latin for "I conquered", and is pronounced /wi:ki:/ in Classical Latin. --<b><font color="#FF4F00">[[User:Nlitement|nlitement]]</font> <sup><font color="#000000">[[User_talk:Nlitement|[talk]]]</font></sup></b> 16:22, 21 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:So? Regards, [[User:HaeB|HaeB]] ([[User talk:HaeB|talk]]) 11:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC) |
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: Depends on what country you learned Latin in. How it IS pronounced and how it WAS pronounced are two separate matters, and there is still much debate on the latter. |
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== Meaning of wiki-wiki? == |
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In most [[Malayo-Polynesian languages]] reduplication is used to signify plural (for nouns), or continuous (for verbs). Does anyone know the exact implication in Hawaiian? It would be nice to add that to the page. [[User:Lawrencekhoo|lk]] ([[User talk:Lawrencekhoo|talk]]) 13:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC) |
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