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== August 2008 ==
== August 2008 ==

[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px]] Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view policy]] by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles{{#if:|, as you did to [[:{{{1}}}]]}}, you will be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing Wikipedia. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-npov3 -->--[[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 13:27, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

<div class="user-block"> [[Image:Stop x nuvola with clock.svg|40px|left]] {{#if:31 hours|You have been '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing for a period of '''31 hours'''|You have been '''temporarily [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing}} in accordance with [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|Wikipedia's blocking policy]] for {{#if:Repeated use of different IP addresses, of which this is the latest, which posts inflammatory messages attacking whole classesw of users into pages dealing with matters of interest to UK and Irish editors|'''Repeated use of different IP addresses, of which this is the latest, which posts inflammatory messages attacking whole classesw of users into pages dealing with matters of interest to UK and Irish editors'''|[[Wikipedia:Vandalism|abuse of editing privileges]]}}. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|make constructive contributions]]. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may [[Wikipedia:Appealing a block|contest the block]] by adding the text <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "nowiki" tags. --><nowiki>{{</nowiki>unblock|''your reason here''<nowiki>}}</nowiki><!-- Do not include the "nowiki" tags. --> below. {{#if:[[User:ddstretch|<span style="border:1px solid DarkGreen;padding:1px;"><font style="color:White;background:DarkGreen" size="0">&nbsp;DDStretch&nbsp;</font></span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:ddstretch|<font color="DarkGreen" size = "0">(talk)</font>]] 13:34, 11 August 2008 (UTC)|[[User:ddstretch|<span style="border:1px solid DarkGreen;padding:1px;"><font style="color:White;background:DarkGreen" size="0">&nbsp;DDStretch&nbsp;</font></span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:ddstretch|<font color="DarkGreen" size = "0">(talk)</font>]] 13:34, 11 August 2008 (UTC)}}</div><!-- Template:uw-block1 -->

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== Censurship?? ==
== Censurship?? ==


Actually, I restored your posting. Check the page history. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 15:02, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I restored your posting. Check the page history. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 15:02, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

<div class="user-block"> [[Image:Stop x nuvola with clock.svg|40px|left]] {{#if:|You have been '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing for a period of '''{{{time}}}'''|You have been temporarily '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing}} in accordance with [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|Wikipedia's blocking policy]] for {{#if:|'''{{{reason}}}'''|repeated [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|abuse of editing privileges]]}}. Please stop. You are welcome to [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|make ''useful'' contributions]] after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may [[Wikipedia:Appealing a block|contest this block]] by adding the text <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "nowiki" tags. --><nowiki>{{</nowiki>unblock|''your reason here''<nowiki>}}</nowiki><!-- Do not include the "nowiki" tags. --> below. {{#if:|[[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 02:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)}}</div><!-- Template:uw-block2 -->--[[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 02:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

<div class="user-block"> [[Image:Stop x nuvola with clock.svg|40px|left]] {{#if:48hours|You have been '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing for a period of '''48hours'''|You have been temporarily '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing}} in accordance with [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|Wikipedia's blocking policy]] for {{#if:Repeated edit warring by posting and reposting inflammatory and disruptive, almost political material on [[Talk:British Isles]]|'''Repeated edit warring by posting and reposting inflammatory and disruptive, almost political material on [[Talk:British Isles]]'''|repeated [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|abuse of editing privileges]]}}. Please stop. You are welcome to [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|make ''useful'' contributions]] after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may [[Wikipedia:Appealing a block|contest this block]] by adding the text <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "nowiki" tags. --><nowiki>{{</nowiki>unblock|''your reason here''<nowiki>}}</nowiki><!-- Do not include the "nowiki" tags. --> below. {{#if:[[User:ddstretch|<span style="border:1px solid DarkGreen;padding:1px;"><font style="color:White;background:DarkGreen" size="0">&nbsp;DDStretch&nbsp;</font></span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:ddstretch|<font color="DarkGreen" size = "0">(talk)</font>]] 21:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)|[[User:ddstretch|<span style="border:1px solid DarkGreen;padding:1px;"><font style="color:White;background:DarkGreen" size="0">&nbsp;DDStretch&nbsp;</font></span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:ddstretch|<font color="DarkGreen" size = "0">(talk)</font>]] 21:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)}}</div><!-- Template:uw-block2 -->


Your remarks are partly understandable and it is true that some people don't like what you say. But that isn't why they have been deleted. The purpose of the Talk: articles is about how to improve the article. Your statement simply expressed your personal opinion about the concept - but that doesn't improve the article. The foundation stone of Wikipedia is that the personal opinions, likes and dislikes of individual contributors don't matter: the only things that matter are the opinions of reliable sources. (See [[WP:cite]]). It doesn't matter if we don't like the fact that people use the term "British Isles" to include Ireland, since that is exactly what they do do, over and over again. So we have to have an article about it and we can certainly quote notable Irish commentators who say why they don't like it. --[[User:Red King|Red King]] ([[User talk:Red King|talk]]) 22:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Your remarks are partly understandable and it is true that some people don't like what you say. But that isn't why they have been deleted. The purpose of the Talk: articles is about how to improve the article. Your statement simply expressed your personal opinion about the concept - but that doesn't improve the article. The foundation stone of Wikipedia is that the personal opinions, likes and dislikes of individual contributors don't matter: the only things that matter are the opinions of reliable sources. (See [[WP:cite]]). It doesn't matter if we don't like the fact that people use the term "British Isles" to include Ireland, since that is exactly what they do do, over and over again. So we have to have an article about it and we can certainly quote notable Irish commentators who say why they don't like it. --[[User:Red King|Red King]] ([[User talk:Red King|talk]]) 22:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

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August 2008

Censurship??

Actually, I restored your posting. Check the page history. GoodDay (talk) 15:02, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your remarks are partly understandable and it is true that some people don't like what you say. But that isn't why they have been deleted. The purpose of the Talk: articles is about how to improve the article. Your statement simply expressed your personal opinion about the concept - but that doesn't improve the article. The foundation stone of Wikipedia is that the personal opinions, likes and dislikes of individual contributors don't matter: the only things that matter are the opinions of reliable sources. (See WP:cite). It doesn't matter if we don't like the fact that people use the term "British Isles" to include Ireland, since that is exactly what they do do, over and over again. So we have to have an article about it and we can certainly quote notable Irish commentators who say why they don't like it. --Red King (talk) 22:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]