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== Isis Gee ==
== Isis Gee ==

Revision as of 22:04, 28 August 2008

Isis Gee

All Sims2 was doing was adding the article to a category, and a perfectly correct one at that. There was nothing PR-ish about it. There was some POV stuff added but User:Blnguyen had already removed it. Chwech 15:20, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think the right approach is to go in and take out the bad stuff, not blanked revert. Grk1011 (talk) 16:31, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fine, its also customary to leave messages at the bottom on talk pages. Grk1011 (talk) 16:36, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I responded on my talk, continue the conversation there. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 14:40, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ties

My source lists the placings after the tie was broken. If they had all come in last place, then their placings would all say 23 like it shows in past years when there is a tie. See [1] where there are 2 eleventh place countries since the tie was not broken. This is not the case where the tie was broken and each country given a place 23, 24, 25. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 18:52, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do not revert anything yet. Prove that there was no tie break because the website shows there was by the placings. I am not "believing" pink, I know what happened, I researched and you are wrong. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 21:19, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Sorry my edition was put there by an admin. The new information of a tie=break has no source whereas mine does. It is the consensus version and I do not trust a user with the history of pink. Onceloose (talk)

Ok then trust me. What information and what admin? the joint last? We go by verifiability here so please show the tie for last. I'm having a hard time finding it. It seems like for life has the same points as the last place uk, but placed 24th. Please prove otherwise with a link showing a tie for last place, not points. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 21:33, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm keen to help, have been a eurovision fan for a while!