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==Still not accurate== |
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*Film leaves out not only that several different Mexican accounts tell of defenders being captured and executed-although not agreeing on the number of those killed-being anywhere from two to seven-but that a number of the Alamo Garrison tried to escape at the last minute but only to be cut down by mexican Cavalry; lastly the film has Crockett last words being that he was a "Screamer"; in fact de la Peña's account reports that those died did so did cry out while being struck with swords but without "disgracing themselves". |
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*The film also implies that Crockett was known to the Mexican Army-yet with the possible exception of De La Pena who possibly wrote his account years later-there is little evidence that Crockett was well known outside the United States. In fact after the battle Santa Anna had to have the bodies of Travis; Bowie ''and'' Crockett pointed out to him! |
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* Travis and Bowie-They had a "joint command" Travis comanding the "Regualar" Texas Army and Bowie the Volunteers-until Bowie became too ill and Travis became ''de facto'' garrison commander-after Travis lost a vote to deterime who was going to be the over-all commander; there is no evidence that Bowie and Travis were going to engage in a knife duel however}. . |
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*Likewise the film fails to tell of the fate of the Fannin's [[Goliad]] garrison-who after a brief battle were captured and killed. |
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*The film does distinguish between the legendary "Davy Crockett" aka Colonel "Nimrod Wildfire" and the real [[David Crockett]]. Travis slave "Joe" fate is left ambigious-showing him only in a small room after Travis death clutching Travis saddlebags and repeating in Spanish that he was a negro and not to shoot; in fact he was slightly wounded/captured but released with Mrs. Dickerson and her daugther by Santa Anna-who are only shown in the movie as being in the Chapel; furthermore several of the Mexican women and children shown as being the Chapel were also released. In a latter scene a Mexican courier was captured by Sam Houston's forces-and although not shown on screen, Travis saddlebags were found at this time.<br> |
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*In regard to [[Jim Bowie]] death the film implies Bowie was killed in one of the rooms of the chapel; in fact Bowie was reportably killed in a small room near the Main {South} gate of the Alamo.<Br> |
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*The Remains of the Alamo garrison were cremated; the fim shows the bodies being gathered up but not their disposition |
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Plot would help
I'm no major editor, but I think this would be the one section to most remove this from stub status. You could probably take a lot of info from the main Alamo battle article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Katana314 (talk • contribs) 00:49, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
Yes, I'd certainly like to see a plot segment here... I'm trying to write a review for a portfolio assignment! -- Luigifan using --71.232.202.59 16:08, 8 December 2006 (UTC) (Milford High School)
I just watched the movie and the final battle is shown to take place in the early morning, with the Mexican Army sneaking to attach the mission prior to sun-rise and the sun being completely up by the end of the battle. The line in the trivia portion should be removed.ESQ24 20:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
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Still not accurate
- Film leaves out not only that several different Mexican accounts tell of defenders being captured and executed-although not agreeing on the number of those killed-being anywhere from two to seven-but that a number of the Alamo Garrison tried to escape at the last minute but only to be cut down by mexican Cavalry; lastly the film has Crockett last words being that he was a "Screamer"; in fact de la Peña's account reports that those died did so did cry out while being struck with swords but without "disgracing themselves".
- The film also implies that Crockett was known to the Mexican Army-yet with the possible exception of De La Pena who possibly wrote his account years later-there is little evidence that Crockett was well known outside the United States. In fact after the battle Santa Anna had to have the bodies of Travis; Bowie and Crockett pointed out to him!
- Travis and Bowie-They had a "joint command" Travis comanding the "Regualar" Texas Army and Bowie the Volunteers-until Bowie became too ill and Travis became de facto garrison commander-after Travis lost a vote to deterime who was going to be the over-all commander; there is no evidence that Bowie and Travis were going to engage in a knife duel however}. .
- Likewise the film fails to tell of the fate of the Fannin's Goliad garrison-who after a brief battle were captured and killed.
- The film does distinguish between the legendary "Davy Crockett" aka Colonel "Nimrod Wildfire" and the real David Crockett. Travis slave "Joe" fate is left ambigious-showing him only in a small room after Travis death clutching Travis saddlebags and repeating in Spanish that he was a negro and not to shoot; in fact he was slightly wounded/captured but released with Mrs. Dickerson and her daugther by Santa Anna-who are only shown in the movie as being in the Chapel; furthermore several of the Mexican women and children shown as being the Chapel were also released. In a latter scene a Mexican courier was captured by Sam Houston's forces-and although not shown on screen, Travis saddlebags were found at this time.
- In regard to Jim Bowie death the film implies Bowie was killed in one of the rooms of the chapel; in fact Bowie was reportably killed in a small room near the Main {South} gate of the Alamo.
- The Remains of the Alamo garrison were cremated; the fim shows the bodies being gathered up but not their disposition