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*'''Weak Delete''' or strip to a stub - Trawled through the ghits, lots of press releases and token directory entries. I will change my opinion if an additional suitable source can be unearthed to supplement the YPress article, which seems fine. Article should then be built up from these independent sources. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] ([[User talk:Marasmusine|talk]]) 20:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC) |
*'''Weak Delete''' or strip to a stub - Trawled through the ghits, lots of press releases and token directory entries. I will change my opinion if an additional suitable source can be unearthed to supplement the YPress article, which seems fine. Article should then be built up from these independent sources. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] ([[User talk:Marasmusine|talk]]) 20:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''': no reliable third-party sources to support this article, thus failing [[WP:N]] and [[WP:V]]. Only sources are either self-published unreliable sources, or official material that has been reprinted such as press releases. [[User:Randomran|Randomran]] ([[User talk:Randomran|talk]]) 19:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''': no reliable third-party sources to support this article, thus failing [[WP:N]] and [[WP:V]]. Only sources are either self-published unreliable sources, or official material that has been reprinted such as press releases. [[User:Randomran|Randomran]] ([[User talk:Randomran|talk]]) 19:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' as nontrivial and unoriginal research and because we are a collection of info. “I don’t like it” is NOT a reason for deletion. Passes [[WP:V]] and [[WP:N]].--[[Special:Contributions/209.247.22.85|209.247.22.85]] ([[User talk:209.247.22.85|talk]]) 05:25, 29 September 2008 (UTC) |
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- Cyberathlete Amateur League (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
This article was deleted via an expired WP:PROD several months ago with the reason stated "Could not find any third-party sources to prove notability or verifiability." Article has been recreated and is showing the same exact problems as before regarding lack of verifiable, third-party sources establishing any notability. MuZemike (talk) 14:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletions. MuZemike (talk) 14:44, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Keep and Improve - Article on the start up of CAL. Regular competitive gaming news related to CAL exclusively. Third party review of CAL. News of CAL's move into Xbox games. Shall I continue? Torinir ( Ding my phone My support calls E-Support Options ) 15:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- How about sources that are not press releases that are from reliable sources that can establish the significant coverage covered in WP:GNG? MuZemike (talk) 15:49, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- How about sources that relate specifically to gaming, competitive gaming and youth, which are the target markets for the news articles, since that is where the major interest groups are? Don't expect many articles on gaming related subjects in places like Forbes or New York Times. The interest is not there in those venues. Sourcing comes where the interest is. In this case it would be gaming sites and magazines. In the case of the YPress article, YPress is a youth serviced and targeted publication housed in the offices of the Indianapolis Star site as an NPO. Torinir ( Ding my phone My support calls E-Support Options ) 22:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Don't confuse press releases with newspaper articles; they are two different things. Let me rephrase. I understand about YPress (I also think that is OK), but are there other sources besides press releases that provide the needed significant coverage? MuZemike (talk) 23:28, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- How about sources that relate specifically to gaming, competitive gaming and youth, which are the target markets for the news articles, since that is where the major interest groups are? Don't expect many articles on gaming related subjects in places like Forbes or New York Times. The interest is not there in those venues. Sourcing comes where the interest is. In this case it would be gaming sites and magazines. In the case of the YPress article, YPress is a youth serviced and targeted publication housed in the offices of the Indianapolis Star site as an NPO. Torinir ( Ding my phone My support calls E-Support Options ) 22:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- How about sources that are not press releases that are from reliable sources that can establish the significant coverage covered in WP:GNG? MuZemike (talk) 15:49, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Delete or strip to a stub - Trawled through the ghits, lots of press releases and token directory entries. I will change my opinion if an additional suitable source can be unearthed to supplement the YPress article, which seems fine. Article should then be built up from these independent sources. Marasmusine (talk) 20:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Delete: no reliable third-party sources to support this article, thus failing WP:N and WP:V. Only sources are either self-published unreliable sources, or official material that has been reprinted such as press releases. Randomran (talk) 19:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Keep as nontrivial and unoriginal research and because we are a collection of info. “I don’t like it” is NOT a reason for deletion. Passes WP:V and WP:N.--209.247.22.85 (talk) 05:25, 29 September 2008 (UTC)