Talk:List of Naruto characters

Why Sasuke is

Why is Sasuke still listed under Protagonists? At this point, after all he's done and now knowing he wants to kill everyone in Konoha, he should definitely be taken out of this section. I don't see how there could be any debate about that. He's done nothing protagonistic in many many ages. And he's already listed in "List of Naruto antagonists" as part of Team Hawk, so having him here too can't be correct. Can't be both at the same time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.97.162 (talk) 01:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

He's still a main character, which is what the section is geared at covering. The section might need renaming to better reflect that. ~SnapperTo 02:42, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes he is, but the two main lists are entitled protagonists and antagonists, not main characters and antagonists. Not to mention he's in both, so it would be entirely appropriate to remove him from the former. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.99.170.38 (talk) 20:54, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Which is why I suggested renaming the section "Main characters". Name aside, the current section he is in is most appropriate; Sasuke has always been a protagonist (main character), only recently becoming an antagonist (works against protagonist; not necessarily a main character). It's going to be somewhat confusing no matter where he's placed, and placing him with the rest of the original Team 7 is simply more accessible to readers. ~SnapperTo 23:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

He's shouldn't be one. Being a Main character doesn't mean you're a protagonist. His motives are the opposite of Naruto which makes him an antagonist. --Vehgah (talk) 19:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Hyuga? Not Hyuuga?

I'm pretty sure that in the animes it is Hyuuga... and I'm 100% sure it's Hyuuga in games... correct please 87.205.209.176 (talk) 17:44, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

No, its not. Viz translated manga use Hyuga. So that's what we use. Besides, where are you getting your anime translations from anyway? Fansubs? Those really don't count. --GhostStalker(Got a present for ya! | Mission Log) 18:26, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

"Hyūga" maybe. --IdLoveOne (talk) 03:44, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Merging

Why have all these sections been merged? I understand that they are considered 'minor' characters, but in a series this large, there are no real 'minor' characters. There is too much that needs to be said about these characters to be shoved into one paragraph, particularly if one is loking for their birthdays, like I was. 24.115.71.110 (talk) 16:07, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Birthdays don't need to be said, because they add nothing to the character. ~SnapperTo 18:33, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

And there most definitely are minor characters in Naruto - what about Tsunade (Imari's mother, back from the Land of Mist arc)? Or most of the students in the academy with Naruto at the very beginning of the series? And pretty much *all* of the characters introduced in the anime filler episodes are minor. —Dinoguy1000 18:36, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Birthdays may add nothing to the character, but there are other important facts. I'm not saying that Inari's mother needs her own article, but as for the rookie nine, Gai's team, The Sand ninja, and Tsunade (Who is the Godaime, not Inari's mother) contribute too much to the plot to be considered 'minor.' Many of them even have their own arcs! In articles such as Neji's old one, there were several sections, each consisting of two or more paragraphs of relevant information. How did you condense that into one tiny paragraph? There is too much to be said about these characters, ESPECIALLY the Hyuugas. 71.181.164.42 (talk) 19:05, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

They weren't merged because they were "minor", they were merged because there isn't enough conception/reception information on them to keep their articles. If you're interested, the Naruto wikia has all of the individual articles in their former glory. ~SnapperTo 19:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I dont know why Tsunade was gotten rid of. That was just a stupid decision. Tsunade gets merged, but Lee keeps his article. Tsunade is in pretty much every episodes after she was introduced. Lee was not. Not even close. (I'm not implying that Lee should be merged, what I'm saying is that nobody was complaining that Tsunade had her own article. Now they're complaining that she doesnt. It was perfectly fine the way it was. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.87.69.48 (talk) 02:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

The simple answer is that Tsunades article no no out of universe info whatsoever unlilke Rock Lee's. Tsuande's article had no creation or concept section and there was no information regarding reception (Ie what critics etc thought of the chaaracter). Rocke Lee's article has both with reiable sources to back the statments up. In short Tsuande's article clearly failes WP:FICT whiile Lee's does not. If you do want the article recreated finding reliable sources regarding reception and character creation is the best way to start. --76.69.171.73 (talk) 01:49, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Pictures

I think this article could do with more pictures, maybe a picture of each team next to the team heading, i think this would be a worthy addition to the article, it would certainly make it more informative for people who don't know very much about Naruto, which is often touted as the raison d'etre of the page?82.69.83.28 (talk) 00:10, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Fair use concerns. The images are copyrighted material and we can only use them sparingly. As such, group pictures are generally what are used over several individual pictures. Yes, the article would look nicer, but it's against official policy on the matter. See WP:NONFREE and WP:NFCC for more information. sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 00:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Pardon, But...

I added in an entry for Anko on this list, and I come back to find it has been deleted, the reasoning being she is a minor character. I for one think this may be a baseless or unfair assumption, as characters such as Chiyo and Konohamaru, who are both arguably as unimportant as Anko, are both on this list. I was wondering if it would be possible to revert the entry to the way it was. --76.100.18.78 (talk) 04:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

This article has size issues, so the line for which characters get listed needs to be drawn somewhere. Speaking strictly from a manga standpoint, Anko has not made an appearance in the series in well over 300 chapters (and a passing mention some 260 chapters ago). Iruka and Konohamaru have appeared much more recently than that. Similarly, she is of negligible significance during her short appearance, as her only worthwhile contribution is a failed attempt to kill Orochimaru. Chiyo has a volume or two dedicated to her and she actually kills Sasori. Both points, I think, would qualify Anko as more of a minor character than Iruka, Konohamaru, and Chiyo. I realize her appearances in the anime have done something to overcome these shortcomings, but not enough to be included here. Were Anko to be added to the list some umpteen equally recurring characters would be added as well, making the article's size issues only more apparent. ~SnapperTo 18:44, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Why don't you just divide up the page and let people make a section specifically for recurring characters then?76.28.11.90 (talk) 03:00, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Because those recurring characters add nothing to the story. They exist to serve an extremely specialized role and to otherwise increase the cast size. As a result, there is little of significance that can be said about most of them. Creating additional articles or making this one even bigger just to add what little information of value there is on the innumerable miscellaneous characters is highly impractical. If someone really wants to read up on Ino's father (who becomes a "recurring character" in chapter 418), they can check the Naruto wikia. ~SnapperTo 03:22, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

How is it impractical? You don't have to create the articles or the additional entries. The original poster already went through the trouble of creating a very brief paragraph about Anko. Besides, if someone really wants to read up on any of the Naruto characters, they can visit Naruto wikia. So why haven't just deleted the entire page and put a link to the other wiki? What makes this article somehow more appropriate for Wikipedia than an article dealing with more characters? It's not as though most of these characters have any relevance to the real world. It seems like your sole concern is with keeping this article short, not with providing information to those that seek it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.11.90 (talk) 01:30, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

That's the gist of it. Contrary to Wikipedia's advertising, it has no desire to be a collection of all human knowledge. It instead strives to succinctly cover what human knowledge the masses might actually look up. Were someone with no interest in Naruto to randomly stumble across an article filled to bursting point with one-shot characters, they scream for its head on a binary platter (aka. wholesale deletion). Should they instead stumble upon this article, stuffed within reason with characters central to the series, they are more inclined to look elsewhere to slay their lust for digital death. This leads to the excommunication of characters like Anko on Wikipedia, and whosoever is compelled to look them up, not find them, and ask about it are pointed towards more informative wikias. ~SnapperTo 03:58, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

However, at the same time, Wikipedia has no links, not even under an "external links" section to said wikia. In the case that someone does not know of the wikia's existance and wants to look up information on a side character, they will be stuck up a creek without a paddle. This presents us with two options, the first of which is automatically ruled out: allow people to add characters to the article as they please, or add in a link to the wikia somewhere. 206.158.3.71 (talk) 16:35, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Or do neither. This isn't a site for fans to throw up info on all their favorite characters, nor is it an advertisement for wikia (nor is it a link directory). Folks wanting to do that can use Google very easily to find a site more to their liking. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 16:46, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not your babysitter. It's not our job to link you to sites you could have found with a simple Google search. If, for some reason, you wish to know about Mitarashi Anko, you are free to put her name into that little Google search bar in your internet browser, press Enter, and click on whatever result floats your boat. Suigetsu 23:37, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Tsunade....

Why is Tsunade here, but the Orochimaru and Jiraiya have their own articles?Moocowsrule (talk) 01:59, 11 October 2008 (UTC)moocowsrule

Because she does not reception info that all the other articles have.Tintor2 (talk) 02:13, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

There was alo not a creation and concept section either which all the other articles that have not be merged have as well. --76.66.182.242 (talk) 03:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)