Talk:United States Marine Corps Recruit Training

Rewording and Updating

Okay, I've seen that this page needs a lot of work, so I'm going to redo things I know are wrong, however, I went through in 2003, and I know it has changed since then. Please update the page as needed, but keep the same level of detail and accuracy. Thanks! Deeter063 04:48, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Article is still horrible. Inappropriate heading structure, convoluted topic hierarchies, random information in random subheadings. I highly recommend this article be structured parallel to the United States Army Basic Training entry.Robotempire (talk) 09:46, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I've arranged some things and set up the intial structure for paralleling the Army basic training article. I don't have much time to work on such things any more but clearly this article needs a heavy re-write. There is far too much jargon interspersed. For boot camp graduates, when you perform rewrites, please do your best to refrain from including your personal recollections or charming details you recall from your time there (i.e. the now-deleted "Gang way, third phase" tidbit I deleted). This should be encyclopedic and educational, not a booster pamphlet used to pump up parents or future recruits.Robotempire (talk) 10:14, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Bias

(This has been addressed) Deeter063 07:32, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

This article is incredibly biased.

Biased how? It's not biased, it's just very poorly written in a non-encyclopedic way.Robotempire 11:31, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey, it's better than no article at all. I mean, we have a nice article about Army BCT, don't you think Marine boot camp deserves one too? 76.177.160.69 21:21, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

It certainly does. If you see the need for an article, or a major change to an existing article, you might want to take it upon yourself to make it happen. Just click "edit this page" at the top of the article to get started.

Equazcion • argue/improves • 21:29, 10/20/2007

Lots of Work

(Again, it has been addressed) Deeter063 07:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC) For an institution such as Marine Corps boot camp, this article needs a LOT of work.Robotempire 11:31, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I've made some pretty huge changes and plan for more later, but for now I will be very protective of this page. Robotempire 13:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Change, Change, Change

Upadte needed??

I wrote it out as it was in 2003, because it was how I went through, and it needed something concrete. As I said above, please, update with any actual information. This article should be as acurate as possible, as potential Marines are constantly reading it! Deeter063 07:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

the schedule has changed since this has been written and there's no point in changing the article now because Mike CO, 3rd BN will be using a new schedule in like a week when they pick up. Right now Parris Island is on a two week lull with no recruits coming in until the new schedule comes out and the new fiscal year starts. But i do know that the new recruits will get issued dress blues and will have a 72-hour long crucible. kinda ticked me off because I just graduated Oct 5th with Plt. 3080, if only i would have waited longer to join. Other than that i have no idea what the new schedule is. Sophion 17:17, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I haven't heard anything about another change, but at any rate the article needs to be adjusted for a schedule (my friend who graduated Alpha on July 6th, and myself who joined Alpha on the 16th had radically different schedules.) I really hope they don't have a 72 hour Crucible, that would suck. I did hear about recruits getting issued dress blues though. Anyway, like I said the article needs a big rewrite no matter what schedule MCRD Parris Island is on now, since this is written for my friend's training schedule.66.66.227.113 —Preceding comment was added at 03:18, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup

This article is really interesting reading, but it relies a bit much on Marine Corps jargon. Readers should be able to read it in conjunction with articles on other US and foreign introductory training programs and be able to make meaningful comparisons between them. I also think the organization can be improved a bit, as it seems like the program itself is very structured (as per the training grid). I've tried my hand at the first few sections, but since I haven't gone through the program I can't be sure I didn't inadvertently misconstrue something, and I think the organization can stand to be improved. --Leifern 13:14, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

update

I wrote his version with civilians in mind. If you don't understand what I wrote, you need to look it up elseware, I can't break it down any further without losing the integrity of Recruit Training. Deeter063 07:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Wake up at 0500?

waking up

I was there in 03, and it doesn't matter. Each platoon woke up at a different time. Sometimes it was 05, sometimes it was 02 (although officially we woke at 0530, in accordance with marine corps and congress' policies) Deeter063 07:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

When I was on depot at San Diego last year, we "officially" woke up at 0400, but the fire watch was instructed to "pound the pine" starting at 0330 and continue at 5-minute intervals until 0400 or until told to stop. Has this changed, or is it different at PI, or what? 71.95.232.228 23:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes most of the time we woke up at 04 and firewatch pounded the senior drill instructors hatch at 0330 (depending on the duty drill instructor) and every five minutes afterwards. But as it was stated this article is in need of a serious change. -Sophion —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.129.27.3 (talk) 19:20, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Edited out vandalism

Someone decided to discreetly make several inaccurate edits on purpose. I recommend that edits be restricted temporarily.

MichaelC88 04:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Recruits killing each other?

If they are not seen as "worthy" they will be tested by being told to kill a fellow recruit that is also deemed as "not worthy", the survivor will then be placed back with their platoon and will continue with training.

As I suppose that nobody actually gets killed, could someone please clarify what's actually going on in this situation? wr 92.192.78.145 (talk) 20:46, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

By the end of First Phase, recruits can march, respond to orders, and can PT adequately. All recruits must also pass swimming qualifications at the end of Phase One. Recruits unable to pass their swimming qualifications will be dropped out in the ocean several miles away from the coast as another chance to pass the qualifications.

Somehow, I think this entire article is false. 65.102.28.180 (talk) 21:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

On the silly edits

Okay, who keeps vandalizing the page with statements on marines killing each other, (despite my negative opinions of the armed forces) 66.67.178.245 (talk) 00:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)