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Inaccurate/Oversimplified Mechanism

The mechanism image is not quite correct; the product is not protonated until the addition of acid. The product is more acidic than the starting material, so the regenerated alkoxide would deprotonate the product in preference to the starting material. The deprotonation is mechanistically important as it drives the reaction thermodynamically.

Agreed, the mechanism is not correct but it appears that it is taught this way a lot, all of the University/.edu web pages I looked through on a quick google search seemed to teach this oversimplified mechanism. I've found the complete/accurate mechanism in Solomons Organic Chemistry 6th edn from page 860 onwards. Meltyman (talk) 13:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Inaccurate/Oversimplified Mechanism ==
 The mechanism image is not quite correct; the product is not protonated until the addition of acid. The product is more acidic than the starting material, so the regenerated alkoxide would deprotonate the product in preference to the starting material. The deprotonation is mechanistically important as it drives the reaction thermodynamically.
+Agreed, the mechanism is not correct but it appears that it is taught this way a lot, all of the University/.edu web pages I looked through on a quick google search seemed to teach this oversimplified mechanism. I've found the complete/accurate mechanism in Solomons Organic Chemistry 6th edn from page 860 onwards.
+[[User:Meltyman|Meltyman]] ([[User talk:Meltyman|talk]]) 13:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)