Talk:Concept art

This page was recently reverted to a redirect to conceptual art. Despite similar names, and conceptual art at times being refered to as concept art (same name, different meaning), they are not the same thing. Any suggestions as to how to clarify this with a disambiguation page would be welcome.

NPOV

Looks like some good new info has been added, but "so-and-so is the best" or "so-and-so is the most important" isn't right for an encyclopedia article. --- Mike 04:23, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Getting closer

Good changes being made... --- Mike 04:31, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Agreed, feel free to make changes too :) Wassermelone 19:47, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Suggested changes

I would suggest a better format for the artists links. Link to their page through their real name (if able to track it down) and then include their moniker/alias after that. If you want to add information about the artist... make a wiki entry about em rather than putting it here. (I guess if theres enough information that it warrants it... Wassermelone 19:47, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

• Article needs some sources to back up we're not just pulling a commercial art discipline out of the rabbit's hole here. Necz0r (talk) 01:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggested changes too

I would suggest the following change "Concept art is a form of illustration where the main goal is to convey a visual representation of a design, idea, and/or mood for use in movies, video games, or comics in order to promote financing for the project and/or give a visual guideline in the production. This is a relatively new designation popularized by artists working in the automobile and video games industries." to define the way concept art is used befor and in the actual production. Due to my lack of knowledge in english im not sure if this point comes across so maybe someone has a better wording.

also the articles about artists like Ralph McQuarrie and Syd Mead call them conceptual designer ,maybe the term concept artist should be added too and the articles could be linked in the artist list by someone with a little more experience in wikipedia editing and english.

External link ?

Maybe the artists with their homepagelinks should be listed under "External link" unless it is an wikipedia link but im not so sure about the wikipedia standard .

Before the prodder removed all the external links, this was definitely way too many external links on this article. The rough standard is that we should only link to a few sites, preferrably none of them commercial, where the topic of the article is discussed or defined. For a major article with substantive sections, it may be appropriate to have suitable external links to such sub-sections. External links to individual artists are definitely inappropriate for this article. If they are notable artists (see WP:BIO, with their own article, one such link is appropriate on their article. GRBerry 01:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

This page is just so off the mark. delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.77.186.196 (talk) 10:00, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

This page does no justice to the term because it is an art term since the 1960s and not an industry one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Artclay (talk • contribs) 10:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC) you should include downloads —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.54.66.65 (talk) 07:51, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

On the contrary, "concept art" is, and always has been very much an in service to industry. Throughout history artist have, like anyone with a particular talent, sought to profit from their talent. It's a natural impulse to use what you've got to your own advantage. Artists sought patronage of Popes and Bishops, and now they seek patronage of game designers and auto makers. You may be uncomfortable with that, but it remains true still the same. 76.111.80.228 (talk) 02:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Recent Changes

I just made some changes to try and take away some of the krufty, self contradicting portions. There was even a small portion about the background of conceptual art! Unfortunately, I've been trying to find some good articles/resources. It doesn't seem to really exist. This designation more or less seems to have organically materialized rather than having someone specific it can point to and say 'This person created concept art!' Any help would be... helpful. Wassermelone —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.62.126.227 (talk) 20:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)