Talk:Equal opportunity

What other countries make affirmative action illegal? For whom do they make it illegal? What is their history of dealing with ethnic and gender differences and the residues of slavery? We need this information, or we just have an unsupported allegation.

Zulitz

Troll Fest

Jeez, this page is terrible as of now. Not sure how to flag it, I'll do so in a couple hours, hopefully I'll be able to work on it some. I think a straight-out revert to a couple of months ago might be in order. --AdamGomaa 18:37, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Changes

Here are the changes I have made. Some overall thoughts:

• Ton of junk. Removed a lot of it. The article is significantly smaller.
• I moved USoA stuff to it's own section. It doesn't look nice, but I don't want it to look nice, because it should be out of place on it's own. More countries should be added, or the section just plain removed.
• Took out loaded language. For example, there was a phrase that said something along the lines of "this could harm all classes (including the protected classes)." That's redundant and thus not explicit and clear in its meaning.
• Cut a ton of BS added in the last couple of months that broke Godwin's law. Not that WP has to follow Godwin, but tying Equal Opportunity legislation to Fascism is a doozy.
• Took out a couple of out-of-context links. I think they were added accidentally, although I don't feel like wading through the history to find out when they were added.
• If you look at the last major paragraph that I changed, it absolutely contains my POV. It's not strictly wrong, or even POV to say that, although the clear line that is pushed is thus that "inheritance breeds inequality," which I believe to be true. But others may not. I'll leave it in anyway. The language could be toned down, but I'll let someone who actually wants to do the toning do so.
• I like meritocracy and equal opportunity. Someone cross-check it to make sure it's still npov. kplzthx.

Thats all I can think of. Actually, the caffeine is wearing off. All the same. --AdamGomaa 19:28, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

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External links

I'm removing four of the external links:

• Equality and Diversity Training Specialists link is blatant spam;
• Equal Opportunities International link is semi-spam (there may be relevant journal articles there but one wouldn't know that from the linked page—they're apparently not readily accessed without a subscription);
• NAFEO link fails to provide useful information to complement article;
• Center for Equal Opportunity link fails to provide useful information to complement article (and btw is a political advocacy group with an agenda whose scope goes way beyond thwarting equal opportunity).

This article needs a lot of work. I don't have time. Grrrr. Rivertorch 20:54, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Equal opportunity X= affirmative action

equal opportunity is ideally about giving everyone universal and equal access to health care universal and equal access to education, police protection, legal protection and defence, any one who puts in affirmative action is either confused, and uninformed or white middle class and trying to muddy the water, or both.

once you come out of high school with the same education as everyone else you're on you're own if you won't work you'll have to live off $50 a week! tuff cookies

affirmative action is wrong and racist, any liberal supporting it is harmin the cause of the disadvantaged.

any americans who travels to a real democracy and studies that society will learn their master/slave society is a sick excuse for a nation Esmehwp 15:55, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Equal opportunity is subject to a wide range of interpretatations. One can be laissez-faire and equal opportunity at the same time if what they mean by equal opportunity is simply equality in freedom. VersaWorka 16:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I believe that "Equal Opportunity" generally refers to a set of employment policies designed to hire a more "diverse" workforce, which is generally about quotas. I would separate the concepts of Equal Opportunity and Equality of Opportunity, which is a philosophical concept stating that people should not be arbitrarily prevented from succeeding based on factors they cannot control. --165.173.126.126 (talk) 15:27, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Definition of M/F/D/V, please?

Frequently in employment advertisements in the USA, the letters "M/F/D/V" appear at the end of the ad. I suspect they have some relevance to Equal Opportunity, as described in this article, and in fact if one types "M/F/D/V" into Wikipedia's search box, it redirects to this article. However, it is not defined in the article, nor is its significance explained anywhere. My hunch is that it refers to "male/female/disabled/veterans" but I do not know for sure. If someone knowledgeable could please add (or add back?) some explanation, that would be very much appreciated. Thank you. Typofixer76 02:28, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

You are correct that besides religion, age, and sex, "M/F/D/V" stands for Male, Female, Disabled, and Veterans in the "Equal Opportunities Employment Act".Pcnubie2 (talk) 04:47, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

removing link

What relevance does the scouts association have to this? Moreover the link is broken and dosn't lead to anything. I'm removing it. Billsmith453 (talk) 12:23, 6 November 2008 (UTC)