Talk:Amethyst

Vandals remark deleted.
Adrian Pingstone 09:34, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Folklore

Should this really be here, and if it should, should some of the remarks be backed up or justified?

The remark that soldiers carried amethyst in their swords, for example, does not specify which soldiers, where, or what evidence there is. Are these pre-christian Romans or eighteenth century Japanese soldiers? And who says all these things? Is there any documentation? I'm not at all sure this section should be published as it is. Brentford 10:37, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

A check of the article history shows that it was probably part of the 1911 text dump back in 2002. It is in need of either good referencing and/or a drastic clean-up. Simple deletion of the section would probably irritate some. -Vsmith 12:59, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Outdated information about colour

The information about the colour of the amethyst comes from 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica, as it can be seen on [1] but the theory about being attributed to the presence of manganese or being of "organic source" is outdated. I am not a chemist and my English is poor, so I will not modify the article myself. From what I know, the colour of the amethyst appears when some quartz is at proximity of uranium (in the ground): the radiations make some electrons to quit the impurity aluminium atoms, and create one colour centre. There are maybe other colour centres than those around aluminium. I hope someone can verify and update the article. Alkarex 17:55, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Bibliography: Quartz Crystals and Their Colors 10.1002/anie.197302831 «The many colors found in quartz crystals are always due to the presence of impurity atoms...» and also on Google Scholar. Alkarex 23:32, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Here is another article attributing the color of amethyst to color centers -- amethyst link. I am trying to write articles on color centers, and may be able to find a more authoritative description to add at some point. Zolot 00:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Amethyst Color Examples

To continue the discussion of amethyst color, metaphysical ideas and photos showing 9 colors of amethyst geodes may be found in a copyrighted article [2]

Edistw 7 Jan 2006

This page was vandalized

I'm a newbie here; I could see how to look at the history but I couldn't find any way to revert to the previous good version of the page.

Thanks for getting my attention, the vandalism has been reverted now. Vsmith 19:38, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Added some chemistry info

Introduced a notes section, as it seemed appropriate for the two references I added. --Olneya 20:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Astrology

Are there references for the astrology sources? I'm interested why a stone would have 4 of the 12 signs represented and where the contributor received that information. Perhaps it could be qualified somehow, but I wouldn't begin to know how without the sources. --MysticFedora (talk) 03:21, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Non-drunknenness belief

I read somewhere that one explanation suggested for the belief that amethyst drinking vessels protected the drinker from intoxication, is that the colour of the amethyst causes water to look somewhat like wine. However, I am having trouble locating the source (so that it can be properly cited) and I am also wondering if this belongs in the article? Bbi5291 (talk) 00:16, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

The idea of ¨non intoxication¨ is not a literal one. It relates to the idea of the amethyst color as a symbol of heavenly understanding. Therefore the intoxication is a lack of heavenly understanding or intoxication in the material world and thus divine ignorance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.41.121.99 (talk) 14:56, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Source on Amethystos myth

I've been trying to find a source on the Amethystos myth for a while (theoi.com is yielding nothing). The source given on this Wikipedia page just leads to one of many gemstone websites which lists the myth, but no ancient source. Does anyone know of one so we can list it? Thanks! -- 205.200.0.105 (talk) 15:46, 31 March 2009 (UTC)