User talk:MadeYourReadThis

Footnotes

Hello, I just started an article on Caressa & Francais, and before I had a chance to finish it, you marked it with "its sources remain unclear because it has insufficient inline citations."

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I have now completed the article. As you probably see, that I have a long list of articles that I have started in the Lutheir Archetier section on wiki. This new article is a stub. If you would like to explain what you mean by "inline citations", I am curious to see it.Milliot (talk) 04:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

YOu've got some bullets with references there but it's not clear what in the article they are references for. Click on the "inline citations" link in the tag and you'll find more information on what the standard is.--RadioFan (talk) 04:47, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I have provided the available information on this historically prominent luthier firm Caressa & Francais. What is it that is not clear?Milliot (talk) 04:57, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

First off, noone is questioning the prominence or notability of this company, the problem is in the citations. Lumping all references into bullets isn't sufficient. These citations are there to reference something in the article, you need to properly footnote the article to make it clear what these citations are referencing. See Wikipedia:Footnotes for details.--RadioFan (talk) 05:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I believe I have made the appropriate corrections, and would like to remove your tag. Please check out the latest version of the article, and perhaps you can remove it yourself? Thanks in advance.Milliot (talk) 05:19, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately the footnote problems still remain. I see only 3 footnotes properly cited, what about the 8 bullets at the bottom of the page? There appear to be some very reliable sources there, are they not references for the article above them? Are you having trouble with {{cite}}? Can I help you understand WP:Footnotes?--RadioFan (talk) 05:23, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Dear RadioFan, If you visit my user page, you can see the amount of articles I have started: [[1]]

The references I include in the article, shows the literature that contains information or examples of this firm. There are books that feature instruments from their collection, and there are books that offer a small bio info. The best references that are available to me at this time, I have provided.

I am not a novice at this. I have made more than 3200 contributions. Most of them have been articles that I started. Again, please visit my user page, you can see that I have experience with expanding wiki. Welcoming me on my talk page as you did, is somewhat of an insult.Milliot (talk) 05:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I did not intend to insult you and apologize if I did. I confused you for a new editor because listing references in bullet form under a references or notes section instead of footnoting them is something that new editors often do. The article still lacks footnotes, there are some but there are still has 9 bullets at the bottom of the article which are unclear where in the article they were used as references for. You added most of these bullets with your initial version of the article, did you intended these as a "further reading" section instead or are they intended to reference the article? Please read WP:FOOTNOTES and WP:CITE and let me know if you have any questions.

While I appreciate that you are not a new editor, your citations are not correctly formatted. The following:

"[http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20040216/ai_n12771775/   Jacques Français] was born in Paris, France on July 3, 1924 the son of Emile Français and Lucile Caressa.

should be formated like this:

Jacques Français was born in Paris, France on July 3, 1924 the son of Emile Français and Lucile Caressa.<ref name="obit">
 {{cite web|url=http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20040216/ai_n12771775/ |title=OBITUARY: Jacques Francais|
 last=Campbell|first=Margaret |date=Feb 16, 2004|publisher=[[The Independent]]|accessdate=2009-04-06}}</ref>

Please read WP:FOOTNOTES and WP:CITE and let me know if you have any questions.--RadioFan (talk) 12:50, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Cameron Wakefield

I've provided the reference you pretty much asked for in this edit. For your information. Young Artist Awards are easily Googleable since all past nominations and winners are recorded on the internet at http://www.youngartistawards.org. You might want to do a quick google and add it instead of tagging them in the future. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:24, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:BIO asks for "significant" coverage in 3rd party sources. Hasn't anyone else written something about this actor? An award will certainly help establish notability, but there's got to be more or this article is likely to be nominated for deletion.--RadioFan (talk) 12:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

citation help

{{helpme}} I'm having problems describing the importance of reliable sources and citing sources to Milliot (talk · contribs · count) concerning Caressa & Francais. I dont doubt that the article is notable but the references need work and I'm just not describing the problems in a way that is getting across. I've tried wikifying some of the references but the editor in question has reverted those changes. I've also pointed to WP:CITE and WP:FOOTNOTES. If another editor could assist, I would appreciate it.--RadioFan (talk) 18:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

You might get a response more quickly if you use {{helpme}}. GT5162 ^{(我的对话页)} 21:46, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll head over to the page and have a look. ∗ \ / (⁂) 22:47, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi RadioFan. Well done for spotting the issues with the article so quickly. Quite often, the process of writing a new article can be long and involve different stages and guidance is always good. I can see that Milliot has looked at the templates and he does appear to be working on recifying the issues - perhaps it would be worth just looking again in a day or so and re-templating if necessary and leaving a nice, non-templated helpful message with Milliot to explain in detail what's wrong? Thanks, Martinp23 22:50, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

As you are discussing me on your talk page and requesting help from admin, I choose to keep this discussion open on your page as well as mine. I really think you have not heard a single thing I have replied to you. There is no copyright violation. I have permission from the Smithsonian Institution for use of some of their material. Citations have been updated and changed. You are not reading it or you choose to ignore it. As per wiki rules, if criteria is met, tags can be removed. Milliot (talk) 22:53, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm currently writing a response on the article talkpage, Talk:Caressa & Francais, for both of you. :) Give me a few seconds. ∗ \ / (⁂) 23:03, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Games (band)

Why didn't you click the external links and the references before deleting an article? It was taken from a blog about the 1970's and 1980's new wave and punk scene in Liverpool. IDIOT. Francodamned (talk) 03:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Restore the article i created!!!!Francodamned (talk) 03:39, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I didn't delete the article, I flagged it for an admin to consider for deletion. If you feel it should be restored, follow the Wikipedia:Deletion review procedure. Be prepared to provide some additional references however, blogs are generally not considered reliable sources. I personally found nothing in a Google book or news search specific to this band name. The common name will make searching very difficult however. If you know of a magazine or book that has written about them, it will make getting this article restored easier.--RadioFan (talk) 12:16, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Rollerboys Recordings

I added a reference link to Rollerboys discography at Discogs, so now there's added reliability for the facts. I hope this solves the problem. Skorpis (talk) 14:06, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

A list of recordings doesn't go quite far enough to establish notability. Take a look at WP:MUSIC for information. If the band has charted, won some reconized award or been reviewed by some recognized sources, then that would be sufficient to establish notability.--RadioFan (talk) 14:11, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Cool. I also added links to compilations that have featured tracks, they have been compiled by Chateau Flight and Fred Deakin for Get Physical and Ministry Of Sound, who you'll know are quite famous. Thanks Skorpis (talk) 15:28, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

BMW CENTRAL BUILDING

Radiofan - i was just wondering why i got a speedy deletion notice on my BMW Central Building Article. I will edit it if need be. However, all of my sources are cited carefully and footnotes. Nothing is copy written or stolen. I was just wondering if you could help me in any way with this

Anm23 (talk) 14:08, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

At the time it was an empty page. It appeared to be mistakenly created.--RadioFan (talk) 14:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)