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Eric West

Non-notable obscure "celebrity"; a fluff piece about a "star" whose single was allegedly briefly on the charts in Bolivia, was reported to have dated some models and singer-actresses, etc., had an album that was talked about but never released, shot a TV pilot, etc. What's the male for "starlet"? This has been here for years but never has established any actual notability for the guy. Look at the photos: Eric West attends this party and this show, etc. So bloody what? Orange Mike | Talk 21:20, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Nothing has changed since the last AFD on this two months ago. I agree the broken links need fixing, though. – iridescent 00:12, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Eric West is non-notable? lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g2OyKyT1Xg 69.112.100.139 (talk) 03:02, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
keep. Again 32.143.182.120 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:50, 21 April 2009 (UTC).[reply]
Delete. So he went to yet another party? So what? --192.70.242.62 (talk) 10:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This article is entirely unverifiable and I suspect it is largely self written. The sources need to be checked mopre thoroughly —Preceding unsigned comment added by Commotion777 (talk • contribs) 11:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Interestingly enough it seems like the same people who want this deleted are unfamiliar with Eric (or claim to be). More so, I find it interesting the same (2) people who want it deleted spend a lot of time checking/editing this Wikipedia (again claim to be unfamiliar with it). This article is more than fine, it has adequate sources from AllMusic, MTV, US Magazine, AOL Music, Yahoo News. Want more do you need? If it need editing for somewhat of a better tone that's something not up to me, but it clearly does not require deletion. ItsRTime (talk) 12:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Broken links, trivia pages, another photo of Eric standing in front of an event sign, YouTube clips - including one where he is simply a member of the audience pulled onto the stage during a song yet magically according to this article the 'event' becomes interpreted as a "discovery of bright new star" ! RossRSmith (talk) 13:24, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Are we really at this debate again? 68.161.142.176 (talk) 17:51, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I'd like to see where this goes. Great to see his is working with Kanye. MusicManMadness (talk) 04:10, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Based on there are enough sources to "pass" notability. Clean up is needed. 174.34.141.38 (talk) 04:46, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I checked the links, and there are less than a handful of broken, most of the article is well-sourced and verifiable and again does not require deletion ItsRTime (talk) 14:10, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All Music: http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:gifoxqwsldke
AOL: http://music.aol.com/artist/eric-west/2239052
NY Daily News: http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2006/04/21/2006-04-21_gatecrasher_milian_myspaces_out_about_an.html
Mario Official website listing Eric West as producer : http://www.mario2u.com/music/go
MTV : http://www.mtv.dk/mtv/?StoryId=1247
Yahoo News: http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:us_weekly995:b3515614bac6f02caa0f65ccb9d966c2

All those first two links tell you is that West's supposed music career to date amounts to precisely nothing. The AOL one is a verbatim copy of the allmusic one so they hardly count as two sources. I can't even be bothered to check the rest. Plus it seems like the same one or two people who want this kept are the same one or two people who keep trying to stifle any discussion of it (look how many times the discussion page has been wiped by certain people any time anyone casts any doubt on the point of this entry) 192.70.242.62 (talk) 14:41, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can't be bothered to check the rest sources but you want this article deleted? Can your vote be taken seriously then? Precisely nothing happened to his career? He recently worked (produced or wrote) on albums for Mario, David Hernandez and Cher, and has been in almost every gossip magazine under the sun. So maybe to you he isn't notable, but for some he is. The guy had an endorsement deal with American Eagle http://popular.ebay.com/ns/Clothing-Shoes-Accessories-/American-Eagle-Outfitters.html . I doubt he would have had it if he wasn't notable. That does not require deletion. ItsRTime (talk) 15:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, the third one is some gossip column rubbish about someone NOT KNOWING WHO ERIC WEST IS. The fifth is a copy of the fourth but in Danish. The last one mostly concerns the completely false rumour made up by someone that he was going to appear in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. And these are the best links you could find? 192.70.242.62 (talk) 15:35, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I tried to find sources that might justify a keep under WP:MUSIC, given the claim that he is an R&B singer. There are comments about two singles that he released, and somewhere it says that BMG is his record company, but I can't find any evidence that he's released an album. So we can't meet WP:MUSIC's requirement for multiple albums on a major label, national tours, or awards. Somewhere else it says he was a male model between 2005 and 2007. Are we getting close to notability yet? EdJohnston (talk) 03:43, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I voted keep. There is a album In the works with universal and downtown records and kanye west is producing it as well. The link is on the main page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.137.99.30 (talk) 03:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There's supposedly been an album in the works for the last six years or so (see Mr. Eric West)! IF and when an album gets released THEN maybe there should be a wikipedia page for him. Until then it's just so much free promotional puff. And that Kanye West link you're so proud of is a link to a pay-for-promotion site. 192.70.242.62 (talk) 10:09, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

'Keep' - seems to just about meet notabilty Hollowinsideandout (talk) 09:05, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

'Keep' KingU (talk) 18:24, 23 April 2009 (UTC) 68.160.202.131 (talk) 00:53, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Lots of wild claims – supposed guest on the Oprah Winfrey show, alleged big hits in conveniently obscure markets, blatantly made-up chart positions, appearing in tabloids around the world (don’t you have to actually be famous to appear in tabloids) – without a shred of independent secondary evidence to back it up, there is no proof for any of this, especially with the heavy reliance on gossip sites and invalid sources like popdirt.

The only thing on his resume was appearing as an extra in Lords Of Dogtown – this constitutes notability? This is nothing more than a puff piece for an apparent habitual liar. The latest one was about his album coming out yet again with supposed production from Kanye West (we would have heard of this if Kanye was involved) – which you can quite clearly see was sent to a free submit your own news site - http://www.mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=119137 Being known for never having released an album is not reason to be on here. 82.40.86.84 (talk) 21:14, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep::: I hope I am doing this right but who the hell are all of these people with these with all of these claims. I know Eric personally and I am shocked there are all of the attacks. Do you guys even have any time for anything eelse? If this web page gets deleted his life doesn't stop. I am so proud of him and how busy he has been. He's got a new record deal, has Brian Michael Cox and Kanye West on his album so far and will be more notable than any of you. Did anyone get the new Gotham magazine? Or Women's Day magazine? Or The Mi2n front page feature? Maybe you should. He's got everything and everyone going on his side now bitches.

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+[[Special:Contributions/68.160.202.131|68.160.202.131]] ([[User talk:68.160.202.131|talk]]) 00:53, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' Lots of wild claims – supposed guest on the Oprah Winfrey show, alleged big hits in conveniently obscure markets, blatantly made-up chart positions, appearing in tabloids around the world (don’t you have to actually be famous to appear in tabloids) – without a shred of independent secondary evidence to back it up, there is no proof for any of this, especially with the heavy reliance on gossip sites and invalid sources like popdirt.
 The only thing on his resume was appearing as an extra in Lords Of Dogtown – this constitutes notability? This is nothing more than a puff piece for an apparent habitual liar. The latest one was about his album coming out yet again with supposed production from Kanye West (we would have heard of this if Kanye was involved) – which you can quite clearly see was sent to a free submit your own news site - http://www.mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=119137 Being known for never having released an album is not reason to be on here. [[Special:Contributions/82.40.86.84|82.40.86.84]] ([[User talk:82.40.86.84|talk]]) 21:14, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
+Keep::: I hope I am doing this right but who the hell are all of these people with these with all of these claims.  I know Eric personally and I am shocked there are all of the attacks. Do you guys even have any time for anything eelse? If this web page gets deleted his life doesn't stop. I am so proud of him and how busy he has been. He's got a new record deal, has Brian Michael Cox and Kanye West on his album so far and will be more notable than any of you. Did anyone get the new Gotham magazine? Or Women's Day magazine? Or The Mi2n front page feature? Maybe you should. He's got everything and everyone going on his side now bitches.