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Gathering Shell Casings?

The wording could be more NPOV; the sentence, "They [the police] then took some time to gather their spent shell casing before withdrawing, leaving the scene in the hands of the National Guardsmen" seems to suggest cold-bloodedness. The key words are "took some time" -- the picture is of calmly collecting shell casings, presumably to hide the number of rounds fired. If that is what needs to be said, we should say it outright -- citing a court witness, or historian, etc. In fact, is the fact of gathering up the casings significant?

Of course the police were calm. They were white Mississippi cops who had just got to shoot them some African Americans(not that they'd use the "AA words" for them). They probably had a cookout to celebrate later. Let's not pretend these guys deserve objectivity.Ken Burch 00:27, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Needs a citation for the statistic "460 rounds of ammunition" -- more than just "FBI estimate." LandruBek 08:01, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Participation of the National Guard

The National Guard was on alert at Jackson State on May 14th but was not involved in the shooting. According to Robert M. O'Neil, et al, in No Heroes, No Villains the Guard was awaiting the withdrawal of the Mississippi Highway Patrol prior to entering the area. Since the MHP never left, the Guard never moved forward. This is unfortunate because the Guard, in Mississippi at least, was the agency better prepared to deal with crowd control. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.231.80.245 (talk • contribs) 06:37, July 14, 2006 (UTC)

The Ubiquitous Sniper

Do you think mention should be made that the "sniper" alibi was also used by the Ohio National Guardsmen after the Kent State shootings, and is a fairly common excuse when armed officers engage in this kind of behavior? Remember that in the case of Kent State, the excuse was ultimately discredited. 140.247.248.204 18:21, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you travel that alley it seems reasonable to also emphasize more greatly the violence of the student body, which is also a common occurrence, and also generally overlooked in order to vilify those responding to their violence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.2.209.2 (talk) 23:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 ==Gathering Shell Casings?==
 The wording could be more NPOV; the sentence, "They [the police] then took some time to gather their spent shell casing before withdrawing, leaving the scene in the hands of the National Guardsmen" seems to suggest cold-bloodedness.  The key words are "took some time" -- the picture is of calmly collecting shell casings, presumably to hide the number of rounds fired.  If that is what needs to be said, we should say it outright -- citing a court witness, or historian, etc.  In fact, is the fact of gathering up the casings significant?
+Of course the police were calm.  They were white Mississippi cops who had just got to shoot them some African Americans(not that they'd use the "AA words" for them).  They probably had a cookout to celebrate later.  Let's not pretend these guys deserve objectivity.[[User:Ken Burch|Ken Burch]] 00:27, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 Needs a citation for the statistic "460 rounds of ammunition" -- more than just "FBI estimate."