Talk:Contrabassoon

Range

Range on the chart is sounding! And it doesn't say that as in articles about other instruments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.30.231.122 (talk) 07:24, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

all information are copied by the book "The contrabassoon, history and technique" edition Ricordi, Milan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ulrichteich7 (talk • contribs) 15:55, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Brahms and the contrabassoon

Brahms uses the contra in all but one of his symphonies; in #2 he uses a tuba instead, the only time he did so. I don't know why he made that choice...anybody have an idea? Wspencer11 20:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

maybe because the contrabassoon was out of order temporarily and was forced to use a similar instrument

all information are copied by the book "The contrabassoon, history and technique" edition Ricordi, Milan --Ulrichteich7 (talk) 16:00, 9 September 2009 (UTC)ulrichteich7—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ulrichteich7 (talk • contribs) 15:56, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Early contra usage

Bach calls for the contrabassoon in the St. John Passion. Shouldn't that get preference over the Beethoven example? And does it turn up in the original wind-band scoring for Handel's Fireworks Music? --Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 16:10, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

• Beethoven was the first symphonic usage, which I believe is stated. 64.251.50.35 15:37, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
• The instrument in St.John's is only refered to as bassono grosso. The instrument did not exist in an operable form during Bach's time. Most scholars think that Bach was refering to a larger bassoon, perhaps a third lower than the modern instrument, because there was not a standard size/key at the time. See books on Bach's continuo group.

all information are copied by the book "The contrabassoon, history and technique" edition Ricordi, Milan

Contrabassoon range?

The range shown seems awfully small. The Bassoon is shown with a 4 and a half octave range, and I know the contrabassoon has a slightly larger range from personal experience. Its not pretty, its not used it any normal music...but neither is the range given for the bassoon. Bassgoonist Talk 15:14, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I am not a bassoonist or contrabassoonist, but I note Grove says "from B♭'' (or even A'') upwards to f or even c'." For bassoon Grove says "The standard compass of the present-day bassoon is from B' to f'' or g''." -- Rsholmes 14:54, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Also, the article claims it's the deepest sound available in most orchestras, but just looking at the range graphics shown on the respective pages, the tuba can go down another Fourth, and in reality it still has a bit below that, albeit very out of tune. I guess that's not it's normal range, but professional players could probably successfully cover any contrabassoon part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.36.105 (talk) 04:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

all information are copied by the book "The contrabassoon, history and technique" edition Ricordi, Milan