User talk:Gadfium

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Cartwright

Hi Gadfium. The allegation that over 30 women dies as a result of the conservative treatment program at NWH is entirely false. I am busy putting together a list of references to prove this and will send it through to you when it is complete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sam422 (talk • contribs) 01:50, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Invasion of the Waikato

I see you have taken an interest in this page so will pose a question for you. "Two river steamers that between them could transport 6000 men" I probably wrote that originally but now I feel it should have read 600 men. Any thoughts on the matter? ping (talk) 07:10, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree, somehow an extra zero got included. I've fixed it, and placed a reference to what I assume was the original source.-gadfium 07:53, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Lou Tellegen

Hi, there were reports that Tellegen removed his own heart. How could he do this? one can't complete a HariKari(removing heart or any other vital organ) and live to tell about it which is obvious by the nature of the act. You may only initiate HariKari and then die from wounds. By nature HariKari could only be an intiated act, not a completed act. those are my thoughts. thanks. Koplimek (talk) 03:52, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Gaddfium

McCaffrey and defamation. No problems with getting the discussion somewhere other than the article, or the talk page. Archiving fine. However, two points. Firstly - and this is partly my fault for choosing a bland title - I would appreciate it if the wording of the title did enable people to find my address for service easily. If someone has accused me of defaming them, I don't want to give the impression I'm hiding. Would you mind if I changed the title from "puffery" to say "Te Atatu dispute". Secondly, I know you are using the phrase "no reliable soures" as a term of art, but it could possibly be more sensitively phrased as something like "no citable source that meets Wikipedia criteria". I winced slightly at the unintended implication I'm unreliable, and suspect Mr McCaffrey would have even stronger views :-)

Thanks, Kit Boyes (talk) 10:30, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I've made the changes you suggest. My intention here is to prevent any to and fro on the talk page, as the dispute is really nothing to do with Wikipedia.-gadfium 19:28, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Gadfium, agree completely about getting it out of the encyclopedia - In the unlikely event of anyone googling my name it's proabably not the best hit to come up :-). Utterly non-noteable in any event, though that is a criteria for articles not trivial content isn't it... anyway thank you for the changes and spologies for bothering you - would have been much better to just contact the author of that edit / Dan McCaffrey direct, but of course no contact details were left. Thanks again for your assistance, Kit Boyes (talk) 20:49, 6 September 2009 (UTC).

Auckland City an Air New Zealand

Gadfium, you should have continued the discussion instead of removing the Air New Zealand paragraph, which addressed many of the points made by parties earlier (i.e. how many employees) and sourced from reliable publications. Air New Zealand's market capitalization and the number of employees should indicate that it is a powerhouse in Auckland City. I decided to start Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_New_Zealand#Air_New_Zealand_and_Auckland_City - And I strongly feel that the information has to be listed, considering all of the reliable sources written about the headquarters facility. It's common sense that a world headquarters = employment base and tax dollars for a municipality. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:13, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

• Okay, I found this: http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/council/projects/cbdproject/docs/theeconomyofcbd%20.pdf - A 2003 report about the CBD from Auckland City states that three of the top ten New Zealand companies, including Air New Zealand, are HQed in the CBD. While Air New Zealand moved HQs since 2003, its new HQ is in Auckland City anyway. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:58, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

green links

Thank you for joining the discussion about the orange and green links proposal. I have started a more modest proposal which may be a first step towards my older proposal. Any comments would be greatly appreciated there. GeometryGirl (talk) 14:28, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

User talk:64.157.4.76

• I noticed you've blocked this guy before and he seems to not get get the lesson. He's on it again.

[1], [2], [3].

My opinion is that he uses the "Random Article" button just to simply vandalise or some sort. --CocaCirca2009 (talk) 19:39, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the report. I've blocked for three months.-gadfium 19:45, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks! Its just so frustrating seeing vandalisers do that >:S --CocaCirca2009 (talk) 20:02, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks so much Gadfium for all the info on the Gastropod subpages! By the way I love the chart on your user page; it cracks me up. it's very funny. Best wishes to you, Invertzoo (talk) 22:31, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Cannabis protest at University of Otago

Hi there could you please advise me of wording that could be used to add information to the student protest section of the Otago University page that you think would be not soapboxing. It is genuinely contextual and it is the most recent significant protest movement at the University. I am not trying to be overly promotional, I just think that this is legitimate information that people are interested in, and it certainly meets the threshold of notability considering the media interest in it over the years. Let me know how you think a sentence could be worded that will satisfy all parties. Thanks 139.80.33.172 (talk) 22:59, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Please don't write about your own club. Try getting an account, and contributing to Wikipedia on subjects where you don't have a conflict of interest.-gadfium 23:10, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I am not a member of the club. That being established what wording would be satisfactory to all parties to include a mention of this group in the student protest section. Given that it is the only current significant protest group on campus at the moment it seems relevant.139.80.33.172 (talk) 05:04, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

A gastropod article

Am I missing something, or did this one slip past the CopyVio cleanup process intact? Trochus tiaratus best, Invertzoo (talk) 00:32, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Looks like it did get missed. I don't have the copy of Powell any more, and it's probably not worth a trip to the library to get it again, so just use your discretion to reduce the description.-gadfium 00:48, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Gadfium. Do you think I need to place the copyvio message on the talk page when I do that? Actually maybe since it is only one, I can see if I can rewrite the description myself. But if not, I suppose I should put the copyvio message on there. Best, Invertzoo (talk) 15:34, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

I suggest you just follow Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Gastropods/Subpage for organizing CopyVio Cleanup#Instructions, next phase. If you don't have alternative materials from which to write a new description, check Henry Suter (1913): Manual of the New Zealand Mollusca which is in the public domain, and if that doesn't cover this species, then reduce the description down to a few words.-gadfium 19:18, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Alzheimer's post

Thank you for your comments on the external link to Alzheimer's Disease for National Endowment for Alzheimer's Research. However, we respectfully disagree with your decision to delete the link to our organization. We have reviewed the external link criteria and it is our position that the link you deleted is as valid and relevant as any of the other external links, and if ours is deleted, then all the rest should also be deleted. We have reinserted the link. If you wish to discuss further, please email the Executive Director at webmaster@memorymatters.org prior to taking unilateral action. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Many people rely on our organization for details of gene therapy for Alzheimer's and it is a valuable resource for the web community rather than a self-promoting purpose.

It appears you have a conflict of interest in the matter. I see your link has since been removed again by another editor. I suggest you explain on the article talk page why the link is important rather than attempting to place it in the article again.-gadfium 20:44, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Dear Gadfium: I do not believe that I have a "conflict of interest" in this matter. However, I do have an advanced medical degree and a decade of experience in Alzheimer's research. We are not interested in debating this matter further. If you feel strongly that it should be deleted, then so be it. But ultimately, it is the community who loses out on access to information and additional resources to fight Alzheimer's. By the way, the Alzheimer's Association site could just as easily be deleted, based on the criteria you forwarded, since they solicit donations through their web site. It appears prejudicial to include some external links and not others, irrespective of who makes the largely arbitrary decision of what to include and what not to include? Rather than simply deleting links, perhaps you could use your Auckland education to do some scientific research of your own? Indeed, we have one Otago alumnus in our lab and have worked with many Kiwis in the area of Gene Therapy. In any event, thanks for your input. We will not make any further edits to the AD entry, but actually it could use a lot of work in many respects aside from links. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.173.172 (talk) 21:30, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Since this has led to a nomination for National Endowment for Alzheimer's Research to be deleted, we will have numerous people looking for reliable sources on your organisation, and its credibility will be established or otherwise. If the article is kept, you will have a stronger case for a link to it on the Alzheimer's page. You can help by providing links to reliable third party sources which have covered the organisation.-gadfium 01:18, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Naming Conventions. RFC: Removal of exceptions to "use common names" passage.

This is to inform you that removing exceptions to the use of "most Common Names" as the titles of Wikipedia articles from the the Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions policy page, is the subject of a referral for Comment (RfC). This follows recent changes by some editors.

You are being informed as an editor previously involved in discussion of these issues relevant to that policy page. You are invited to comment at this location. Xandar 21:38, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. I have fixed one of the links in your post above.-gadfium 23:07, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Please read my comment just below yours. I entirely agree with you, and this is the whole point of the rewrite. I think you've been mislead. Hesperian 23:45, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Overenthusiasm at WP:EL regarding NZ On Screen

Hi Gadfium, I know you've participated in this discussion to a small extent, and are an experience WP:NZ user, so I thought I'd get your opinion (you may not agree with me, which is fair enough). Over at Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard the discussion about New Zealand On Screen has taken a dramatic turn, with an indef block being imposed on User:FilmTVfan for spamming. I appreciate that these users are trying to rid Wikipedia of spam, and appreciate their enthusiasm. But they seem to have missed entirely the point, which is the question of whether the links improve Wikipedia. Mostlyharmless (talk) 03:26, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I am sympathetic to you, and to FilmTVfan, but I have other things I want to do on Wikipedia and therefore pick my battles to some extent. Your most recent post at Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard is excellent: FilmTVfan is a SPA, and that's not really allowed, but her edits were to the benefit of Wikipedia.

One possible tack to take is to ask at Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard what would be the reaction if you (or any other editor in good standing who is clearly not a SPA) reinsert some of the links, after due consideration in each case of whether they were relevant. To strengthen the argument, you could look at other sources to add at the same time, and you could add the link as an inline reference rather than as an external link. I am not suggesting that you actually reinsert the links without a prior discussion; although perhaps you could start the discussion, then edit one article as a trial. Note that NZ On Screen is licensed under CC-NC, so it is not possible to use their text directly without paraphrasing.

If you get a favourable response, you could propose this as a New Zealand collaboration: to examine all of FilmTVfan's links and reinsert those with value, while also improving the articles. I certainly don't expect you to improve them all by yourself.-gadfium 05:43, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, I'll consider those steps. Mostlyharmless (talk) 05:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Category 1 historic buildings

Looking for your thoughts on the notability of the Category 1 buildings Lanma726 (talk) 05:53, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.-gadfium 06:07, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Conflicting image

Yes, thank you. I got sidetracked, but that is a useful image. --Geronimo20 (talk) 20:41, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Mountain biking in Rotorua

Seems like we are edit waring a bit about the category 'Mountain biking venues in New Zealand'. Especially Rotorua has a text in its article

Another of Rotorua's attractions is the mountain biking. Whakarewarewa (also known as the "Redwoods") Forest has been described as 'the Disneyland of mountain biking' and has some of the best mountain bike trails in New Zealand.

I see this 'disneyland of mountain biking' being worth categorizing as an venue. This mean this venue is something special from mountain biking point of view. Is the same as having it categorized as a 'spa town'. Do you still reject placing the category to this city? --Kslotte (talk) 19:32, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Moved to Talk:Rotorua, and replied there.-gadfium 19:44, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

A random gastropods project article

Thanks again Gadfium for stepping in to answer my question. Actually it would be fine for this to be a page by itself rather than being embedded in the portal page. And if so, how do I do it? Thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 20:54, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to do it without listing all nearly 6,000 articles by copy and paste? Invertzoo (talk) 00:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Another technical question

My talk page at the top now has Invertzoo in italics as part of the title. Do you know how to make it plain? Someone may have done this as a little gag because I was making a lot of italic titles in the gastropod project, but I would like to reverse it again. Thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 00:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

NZ_On_Screen proposal

Hi, I'd appreciate your feedback on my proposal at: Talk:NZ_On_Screen. cheers Stuartyeates (talk) 05:02, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Filmtvfan

What options do we have at this point with regards to the two blocks by Guy? He seems to have abandoned the discussion. There also hasn't been any further action on EdJohnston's proposal. Do we have consensus to implement it? UncleDouggie (talk) 05:39, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

You would have made my life easier if you'd linked to EdJohnston's proposal. I presume you mean this. As I said above, I pick my battles on Wikipedia, and do not intend to make this a major one. I do not think Filmtvfan is likely to be interested in being unblocked on the terms EdJohnston proposes, as she is a single purpose account, even though I think being an SPA is acceptable in limited circumstances.-gadfium 09:46, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's the proposal; I'm sorry for the trouble. I understand your position. It's a bit troubling to me because I think that it could have been handled better. Oh well. UncleDouggie (talk) 03:10, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I was rather acerbic in my response to you.-gadfium 03:16, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

When I try to read some talk pages in Wikipedia, such as this one, a strange thing happens. I enter a miraculous Alice in Wonderland world and self-serving blusterings and grandstanding pomposities start parodying themselves before me. Logic and common sense is suspended, as this dream world dances this way and that, with a couple of the main players inflating themselves to improbable dimensions. Is this an altered state? The effects ofeating too many mushroom flats? Have I become mentally deranged? The remaining option is... no surely that can't be true. For a moment I thought it might actually be happening. --Geronimo20 (talk) 07:18, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, sometimes this place is batshit.-gadfium 09:23, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Well then, I shall continue reverting these nonsense reversions. --Geronimo20 (talk) 10:59, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Please don't simply revert, but look at other ways to improve the article as well, and don't do it en masse. The text at NZ On Screen is under a CC-NC license, so it cannot be incorporated directly into the article, as I believe Filmtvfan did at least once.-gadfium 18:20, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Removing italic title

Oh thank you Gadfium, I looked for something like that but could not find it. Many thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 14:27, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Reference Links

Hi Gadfium, thank you for adding IPC page to WPNZ.

I was wondering if you could give me some feedback on these additional info for IPC page.

I'd like to add some reference links about the NZQA-accredited academic programmes and TESOl certificate we have:

http://www.kiwiquals.govt.nz http://www.trinitycollege.co.uk/resource/?id=3479

I would have liked to point directly to the description of each programme but it seems the website applies session for every search result so I can not give a fix link to each of the programme (any idea how?)

And I also want to add a line after the first opening line:

Located in Aokautere Drive, Palmerston North, IPC is a residential education provider.

The 'Aokautere' word will link to an existing page about Aokautere.

Thank you, International Pacific College (talk) 21:06, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

I see you have asked the same question at User talk:98.248.33.198 and been answered there. Please don't ask the same question in several places, because it involves each person spending time finding an answer, even though the first person has already done so. It would be better next time to post a question in one place, and if you think others might usefully contribute, post a brief message on their talk page directing them to the question.-gadfium 22:22, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Got it. Sorry about that and Thank you. International Pacific College (talk) 01:26, 28 September 2009 (UTC)