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Sorry

I thought it was disguised vandalism, sorry. I've recently seen a few of those when I started reverting vandalism. NarSakSasLee (talk) 18:47, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for taking on the task of dealing with some of the IRC article AfDs. I've not had as much time to work on them due to the AN/I discussion. With some of the minor stubs that were prodded, it might have been better just to redirect them to Comparison of Internet Relay Chat clients#client_name. There were at least two I was already considering doing this for since they may not ever be expanded much further. --Tothwolf (talk) 23:24, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Silliness

This was a bad idea, and entirely counterproductive. Please help to address the discussions of these articles productively. And if you want an article on Slashdot so badly, why aren't you writing it yourself? Uncle G (talk) 14:56, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Uncle G, I am sorry and already admitted that it was not the right way. However, considering the effort I made the last days in improving articles and discussions of these articles, furthermore the lack of attention this got from WP:ANI, I am suprised about your comment. I am disengaging, if my help is wanted for a specific article please let me know. I am happy to help. 83.254.210.47 (talk) 15:09, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- That effort was good. But the direction that you began to take above was not. There's a right way and a wrong way to go about these things. The wrong way to go about getting the attention of Slashdot is to start supporting such deletion nominations with parody rationales. The right way is, of course, to go to Slashdot and write. This is not to say that the attention of Slashdot is really what is needed most here, on the gripping hand. Uncle G (talk) 17:56, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You know I gave you a chance to take back your harsh comment and immediately took a step back, however you keep lashing out on me. Let me recapitulate, there is a group of deletionists that abuses the AfD process and that despite the need of urgent admin intervention nothing happened. This went on for days (at least from 25 September when some nominations cached my interested), the frequency of articles being nominated not slowing down, just spilling over to more places.

Yes you are right, supporting a deletionist was not the best way. But here is the deal: Instead of doing time-consuming researches and improvements (go through my edit history if you are interested), I said, if the rules don't work ignore them for the spirit in which they ment and let's roll with the deletionists in order to show with a prominent case how absurd the situation has become. Publicity was never intended for personal reasons, but to finally get some help and point to a process malfunction that harms Wikipedia. I did not nominate a single article for deletion, I was never involved with the corresponding editors before, realistically you could need more help and bring more research and domain-specific knowledge into the process.

So where was your support and helping advice? Isn't the purpose of an admin to create an environment where collaboration is possible? I am absolutely convinced you guys do an important work, but what an unpleasant place AfD is. Appologies to vent some frustration in this edit, it's great to have people who devote their time to improve Wikipedia. I am very disappointed about your comments and consider retrieving from the English Wikipedia. 83.254.210.47 (talk) 21:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

deletion sorting

If you think an AfD discussion should be listed on one of the deletion sorting lists it isn't already listed on, you don't need to ask anyone, you can just do it yourself!

All you need to to is type the following on a new line at the bottom of the AfD (note you don't need add a bullet (*) at the start, the template does that:

{{subst:delsort|<list>|~~~~}}

Where <list> is the name of the deletion sorting list, e.g.

{{subst:delsort|Software|~~~~}}

Once you've save the page (use an edit summary along the lines of "deletion sorting"), copy the title of the AfD (eg. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coolsmile ) and go the deletion sorting list you've added the page to (you've just added a link to it, so it's easy to find) and add the following at the top of the list there:

{{<afd>}}

Where <afd> is the full page name of the AfD discussion you've added to the list (and should be on your clipboard from the previous step), e.g.

{{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coolsmile}}

Add a meaningfull edit summary (I usually use a link to the AfD I've just listed, others link to the article nominated) and your done.

You can find a list of all the deletion sorting lists at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Flat and Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Compact (they both list the same things, just in different formats). If you want to know more, just look at the main page of the deletion sorting wikiproject - Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting. Thryduulf (talk) 11:21, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Z-Net

Since you relied on my arguemnt to some extent, be aware that I changed my !vote. -- see my explanation there. DGG ( talk ) 19:01, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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 *Hi Uncle G, I am sorry and already admitted that it was not the right way. However, considering the effort I made the last days in improving articles and discussions of these articles, furthermore the lack of attention this got from [[WP:ANI]], I am suprised about your comment. I am disengaging, if my help is wanted for a specific article please let me know. I am happy to help. [[Special:Contributions/83.254.210.47|83.254.210.47]] ([[User talk:83.254.210.47#top|talk]]) 15:09, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 **That effort was good.  But the direction that you began to take above was not.  There's a right way and a wrong way to go about these things.  The wrong way to go about getting the attention of Slashdot is to start supporting such deletion nominations with parody rationales.  The right way is, of course, to go to Slashdot and write.  This is not to say that the attention of Slashdot is really what is needed most here, on the gripping hand.  [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 17:56, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
+You know I gave you a chance to take back your harsh comment and immediately took a step back, however you keep lashing out on me. Let me recapitulate, there is a group of deletionists that abuses the AfD process and that despite the need of urgent admin intervention nothing happened. This went on for days (at least from 25 September when some nominations cached my interested), the frequency of articles being nominated not slowing down, just spilling over to more places.
+Yes you are right, supporting a deletionist was not the best way. But here is the deal: Instead of doing time-consuming researches and improvements (go through my edit history if you are interested), I said, if the rules don't work ignore them for the spirit in which they ment and let's roll with the deletionists in order to show with a prominent case how absurd the situation has become. Publicity was never intended for personal reasons, but to ''finally'' get some help and point to a process malfunction that harms Wikipedia. I did not nominate a single article for deletion, I was never involved with the corresponding editors before, realistically you could need more help and bring more research and domain-specific knowledge into the process.
+So where was your support and helping advice? Isn't the purpose of an admin to create an environment where collaboration is possible? I am absolutely convinced you guys do an important work, but what an unpleasant place AfD is. Appologies to vent some frustration in this edit, it's great to have people who devote their time to improve Wikipedia. I am very disappointed about your comments and consider retrieving from the English Wikipedia.  [[Special:Contributions/83.254.210.47|83.254.210.47]] ([[User talk:83.254.210.47#top|talk]]) 21:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 == deletion sorting ==