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Hi
Concerning this edit, please make sure to check every change proposed by advisor.js before applying it. You, for example, changed [[WP:NOT]] into [[WP:''not'']], changed [[:File:Kelly Clarkson - Because Of You.ogg]] into [[:File:Kelly Clarkson — Because Of You.ogg]], and changed some website titles in references, which should normally be avoided as well.
Cheers, Amalthea 07:45, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

After I left my thank you note on your talk page, I reviewed the edits and decided that the script isn't discriminatory enough for editing more complex articles. I've removed it from my .js page. --Born2flie (talk) 10:45, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, with supervision it can still be useful I think, but the changes it proposes are rather trivial in any case. It might be best to leave them to people using AWB, which could do a better job at making such changes without as many false positives (WP:GENFIXES).
Cheers, Amalthea 11:36, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Igor Sikorsky

I'm the Secretary of the Trumbull Historical Society in CT. We've been awarded a state grant to survey historic buildings in Trumbull. Sikorsky owned a house and 36 acres of land on Huntington Tpke. in the Nichols area from the late 1920s to the early 1950s and it's rumored that he built a helipad there. The 1934 aerial survey of CT by the CT Air Guard clearly shows an enclosed clearing with steps leading to it and possibly a man-made object sitting in it (helicopter). We'd like to pursue listing the house on the National Register of Historic Places or even pursue listing it as a State or National Historic Site. I have included the fact that Igor owned and lived in Nichols as a part of the wiki articles of the Nichols NRHP District page as his patents clearly indicate he was from Nichols, Connecticut. I would think that his hometown should be included in his biography wiki page, don't you? Tomticker5 (talk) 17:42, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Not unless it is a significant fact, as in he lived there for a specific reason as opposed to living anywhere else. Scanning a good portion of the reference material on Sikorsky's life, living in the Nichols Farms area has not seemed significant to any of the authors, including Sikorsky himself in his autobiography. Keep in mind that editing with an agenda, as the Secretary of the historical society, presents a conflict of interest, "Where advancing outside interests is more important to an editor than advancing the aims of Wikipedia, that editor stands in a conflict of interest." If you would like to establish that he lived in Nichols as part of the article, I would seek to reference it beyond simply using the patent as a reference, because it just appears to be a trivial fact included in order to wikilink to the Nichols Farms Historic District article, which, from the article history, it is clear that you are the primary editor.

If it becomes substantiated that Sikorsky did indeed build a helipad behind his home,[1] then perhaps the notability of the fact of owning a home in Nichols becomes much more elevated by the uniqueness of the helicopter's inventor installing a pad behind his house. However, the likelihood of that being the truth seems farfetched, since early helicopter pioneers seemed content with operating their machines from fields and Sikorsky's helicopter pitch stressed the operation from unimproved locations.

On a side note, the Nichols Farms article seems to suggest that Sikorsky's home was excluded from the historic district. I'm not sure if that is what you meant to portray in the discussion of Sikorsky's home. --Born2flie (talk) 18:44, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

After considering your comments on the aerial photographic survey, it might be interesting for you to note that Sergei Sikorsky, Igor's son, stated in his book The Sikorsky Legacy (Arcadia Publishing, 2007), that his father and a group of close associates did not begin work on the VS-1 until early 1939. The VS-1 was later designated the VS-300, the patent for which had not even been awarded until 1935. So, it seems even more unlikely that it was a "helipad", as such a conveyance as the helicopter was yet to be successfully flown in the United States. Also, please consider that the Air Force, and necessarily the Air National Guard (or Air Guard) did not exist until 1947. However, it is possible that it was an United States Army Air Corps aerial survey that was the source of your photographic enigma. --Born2flie (talk) 05:10, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

In 1934 Connecticut was the first state in the U.S. to conduct a statewide aerial survey. Fairchild Aerial Survey used pilots from 118th Observation Squadron to photograph the entire state.Tomticker5 (talk) 12:42, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Got it, but back in 1934, the 118th Observation Squadron flying Curtiss JN-4s out of Brainard Field was National Guard, not Air Guard. The Air Guard came into existence as a reserve force of the United States Air Force with the passage of the National Defense Act of 1947. --Born2flie (talk) 14:26, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

If you want to look at the photograph of the Sikorsky house in question for yourself, I'll email it to you. You can try to find it for yourself in the 1934 Aerial Survey archives but unless you're very familiar with the area, you'll never find it. My email address is in the CT Post article you've cited. Tomticker5 (talk) 14:39, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Finishing Vlad Air Peer Review

Hey there, thanks for taking the initiative and starting the Peer review process of Vladivostok Air! Hopefully you'll get the rest done soon.--76.121.4.143 (talk) 02:29, 18 October 2009 (UTC)