User talk:Between My Ken

Image sizes

You maybe interested to know that in the near future the default thumbnail size is going to increase and is dynamic based on browser references. Forcing the image size is unhelpful when mobile users have their client resize on their slow device. So please don't force image sizes. Your own preferences can be set to show large thumbnails if that is your own preference. Miami33139 (talk) 01:28, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Responded on talk page. Sach (talk) 05:36, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Image_use_policy#Proposal_to_increase_the_default_thumbnail_dimensions Miami33139 (talk) 05:40, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Sach (talk) 07:28, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I've looked at the cited thread with interest, but it's not really relevant, since it says nothing whatsoever about forced image sizing. Do you have anything that's actually on point? Sach (talk) 01:58, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

The guidelines state that most images should be left at the default thumbnail size.

You are forcing image sizes because you think the default is too small.

The default will soon be larger.

QED, you should stop forcing image sizes and the default catch up with you. Miami33139 (talk) 04:02, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Your reasoning is logical, but unfortuately incorrect, since it stems from faulty assumptions. I am forcing image sizes to make an article look visually atractive and harmonious, to avoid whitespaces caused by the various peculiarities of how text and images interact when a page is rendered, and to insure that each image is as large as necessary to be worthwhile being included in an article. Images are not, and will never be, one size fits all, so a discussion about increasing minimum thumbnail size is not terribly relevant to my concerns. Sach (talk) 08:23, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Your concerns are not those of the projects and your views on visually attractive take a backseat to consistent image use on the project. This is a collaborative project. If you do not understand how your aesthetic sense cannot override the community standards and stubbornly insist on imposing your style on the project you will continue to attract the communities attention. If you want to argue how your vision is better, you need to present this to the wider community before making widespread changes. It's not about one person's opinion of "better" in a community. Miami33139 (talk) 08:40, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Your comments assume that I am not aware of, and do not appreciate, the collaborative nature of the project, and are for that reason, incorrect. Further, your evaluation of the needs and priorities of the project are your own and are not, I believe, reflective of the community as a whole. Sach (talk) 08:49, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

The community writes guidelines. You ignore them. I don't need to make a value judgement. Miami33139 (talk) 08:55, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

The community writes guidelines, that is correct.

It seems to me that this discussion isn't serving any particular purpose, except perhaps to allow you to vent a bit. Could I ask you not to continue unless you have something substantive to say? Thanks. Sach (talk) 08:58, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Hatnotes and warning templates

Wikipedia:HNP#Placement. Hatnotes belong at the top of the page before infoboxes. Your edits moving hatnotes below the first infobox presents several problems. First, it makes it appear as though hatnotes are part of the content of the article because they appear inline with the start of content. Second, they appear below the infobox on single column browsers. Third, they also get parsed after the infobox by assistive software and devices.

Warning templates also belong at the top of the article or section, not in the references section. Discriminating users who do not want to read unverified content on Wikipedia wish to know before they start, not at the end. The way you format these in the references section with multiple hard returns for whitespace also presents a problem for some users who browse with assistive software or devices.

Please stop doing these things. You may mean well but these edits are not constructive. Miami33139 (talk) 17:02, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice. There are some things which I would have discussed with you, because I believe you are incorrect in your pronouncments, but you seem to have posted concerning me on AN/I instead of waiting for me to respond, hardly a collegial act -- so let's see where that leads. Sach (talk) 19:27, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

WP:ANI notification

There is currently an Administrators' Noticeboard thread open about you, here. Regards, JamieS93 17:27, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice. Sach (talk) 19:24, 24 November 2009 (UTC)