Talk:List of Hollows in Bleach

Szayel Aporro Granz Vs Grantz

I know it's a little early to be bringing this up, possibly 1-2 volumes early by American/English releases, but with Ilfort's last name being translated as Grantz, and them being identified as brothers. Would it be safe to say it's Szayel Aporro Grantz, or is that a little too WP:OR ? DaisukeVulgar (talk) 18:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I would agree with you but I haven't made the edit myself for the same precaution. It might be best to leave it as is, since it shouldn't cause too much confusion when (if) the change is made for just one letter.

Also, it appears his name is hyphenated to be Szayel-Apporo, but that may be due to spacing issues. I doubt that'd be cause to add a hyphen, but I don't want to be accused wrong about it. Spindori (talk) 22:12, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

The January 2010 Shonen Jump does show his name as "Szayelaporro Grantz," so all of it would be one name, right? I'm pretty sure the matter of his surname however is settled now. Spindori (talk) 16:37, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Nel in the espada section

since Nel was shown as a weakling arrancar more than espada number 3, we should put her in "other" rather than "espada" section. right?Bread Ninja (talk) 16:47, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Nel is still the previous Tercera Espada so her position in the rankings seems a given. The 'Other' section explicitly states "The following are those arrancar that have never received a position as an Espada." DaisukeVulgar (talk) 17:07, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok, then i guess Nel can be the exception then.Bread Ninja (talk) 18:17, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Also since Nel tu is more commonly known as "nel tu" shouldn't we change her name title?Bread Ninja (talk) 17:36, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Technically, no we shouldn't. Because she was Nelliel Tu Odelschwanck as an Espada, she was just introduced to the series as Nel Tu. Subtle difference. DaisukeVulgar (talk) 01:13, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Agree with Daisuke. Espada is a title not a race so Nel doesn't need to be in such section.Tintor2 (talk) 01:17, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

She has lost the title of Espada though.Bread Ninja (talk) 19:00, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

::::As I've said before, the Other section, as it states is for "those arrancar that have never received a position as an Espada". There is really no reason to argue against her being in the Espada section. DaisukeVulgar (talk) 20:13, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Edit: She was Still Nelliel Tu Odelschwanck as an Espada, that is why she's shown as that within the section. It says she's more commonly known as 'Nel Tu' any way, so I think its fine. DaisukeVulgar (talk) 20:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

She was introduced as Nel Tu not Neliel Tu Odelschwanck. it was later revealed that she "was" a former espada (number 3)and her full name. Seeing as how haribel is the new espada number 3 it's not really correct to leave Nel tu as an espada while someone else also has the same title. not only that but it appears that only one can hold the title of espada seeing as there are privaron espadas Bread Ninja (talk) 15:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

If you're going to argue against Nelliel being in the Espada section, you should argue at Luppi being in it to. By your logic, they should both go in other. What makes Nelliel special, and Luppi exempt? I'll try to explain to you again, she is in that section because she was given a rank as an Espada, and she is Nelliel in there because she was Nelliel AS an Espada. If she'd never been an Espada, she would be in the 'Others' section. This is needless arguing against it now. DaisukeVulgar (talk) 17:17, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Luppi was introduced as an espada. Nel wasn't. anyways leave it the way you want. but i feel the Other section being far too specific making the article more about "Espadas and Fraccion" rather than hollows in general.Bread Ninja (talk) 16:14, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Spanish translations

I fear some or all Spanish translations is what making the article in an in-universe style due to no sources or because of Original Research. We should try to find sources for the spanish translations and even the Japanese ones for the chapters that ahve yet to be in english.Bread Ninja (talk) 19:00, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Barragan Vs Baraggan

I noticed they had already changed it on the Bleach Wikia, but didn't want to change it without putting it up in the discussion. Afraid I don't know the actual source Its from the 10th official gum card set, so its official, right? [1]. Are we to change it to Baraggan, or not? DaisukeVulgar (talk) 01:36, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Incorrectly Romanized Names

I have realized, like alot of other people, that many names are incorrectly romanized, or are using their commonly mispelled names.

Here are the names I have found with their correct names after them.

• Barragan Luisenbarn = Baraggan Luisenbarn
• Nelliel Tu Odelschwank = Nelliel Tu Oderschvank
• Nnoitora Jiruga = Nnoitra Jiruga
• Grimmjow Jeagerjaques = Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez
• Szayelaporro Grantz = Szayel Aporro Granz
• Rudobone = Rudobōn
• Sonido = Sonído (An attack)
• Shawlong Qufang = Shawlong Kūfang
• D-Roy Linker = Di Roy Linker
• Ilfort Grantz = Yylfordt Granz
• Nakim Greendina = Nakeem Greendina
• Edorad Leones = Edrad Liones
• Dordoni Alessandro Del Socacchio = Dordonii Alessandro Del Socacchio

These are the correct spelling on the Bleach Wiki, and therefore are the most common and accurate. Please take renaming the characters into these into consideration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.69.35.83 (talk) 00:05, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

For all of the "misspellings" you listed that have appeared in the English Shonen Jump, they are not to be romanized. I would imagine that (haven't learned every rule of Wikipedia yet) we are to use the English names since this is the English Wiki, afterall. For all names that have yet to be mentioned in the English serialization, there is no way to tell what they will be, and I don't know how it would be decided which spelling to use. Spindori (talk) 01:37, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Agree with Spin, this is the English Wiki so we use what Viz uses. Its the official translation whether people like it or not. For the ones who have not had their names within Bleach yet, i.e. Nelliel, then we use official merchandise, which has her name as "Odelschwank". As For Baraggan, I put this up in this Talk to see what people thought about changing it, and it looks like "Official Gum Cards" aren't seen as much of a source.

Edit - The Bleach wiki is well known for added speculation in its articles, so to call that place "accurate" is slightly off. DaisukeVulgar (talk) 16:53, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, Nelliel's name has been declared officially to be Nelliel Tu Odelschwanck, so we can take her off of the list. As for Grimmjow, this image clarifies the actual spelling of his name. [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.69.35.83 (talk) 03:32, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

The ones to be followed are the English ones like how we use Soul Reaper instead of shinigami.Tintor2 (talk) 19:00, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Muramasa

The psychotic Zanpakutou from the latest anime filler hollowfied, so that makes him a hollow now, so shouldn't he be mentioned in the "Other" section? And shouldn't Hollow Ichigo be at least mentioned in the article, 'cause he's a Hollow as well. He's a major antagonist of the series, after all. It seems to me that this article may as well be retitled Arrancar, 'cause that's all that's in it. What about Orihime's big brother? That bat-serial killer hollow? Come to think of it, what happened to them? Wouldn't Orihime's brother be in Soul Society? (The gates of Hell gimmick used on the bat hollow was great, but it looks to be a one-time thing.) Anyways, this article needs a few more Hollows, not just Arrancar. 75.157.110.77 (talk) 03:32, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Grimmjow

please show me where it was shown that grimmjow used to be Arrancar 12 before becoming an Espada.